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Count of DYK Hooks | ||
Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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March 15 | 1 | |
March 16 | 1 | |
March 21 | 1 | 1 |
March 22 | 1 | |
March 23 | 1 | |
March 24 | 3 | 2 |
March 25 | 1 | |
March 26 | 1 | 1 |
March 27 | 1 | |
March 28 | 1 | |
March 29 | 2 | |
March 30 | 4 | 1 |
April 2 | 2 | |
April 3 | 1 | |
April 4 | 1 | 1 |
April 6 | 3 | |
April 7 | 1 | 1 |
April 8 | 3 | |
April 9 | 6 | |
April 11 | 2 | |
April 12 | 2 | |
April 13 | 5 | 3 |
April 14 | 2 | |
April 15 | 3 | 2 |
April 16 | 4 | 3 |
April 17 | 6 | 4 |
April 18 | 11 | 5 |
April 19 | 6 | 3 |
April 20 | 8 | 4 |
April 21 | 16 | 9 |
April 22 | 9 | 8 |
April 23 | 15 | 7 |
April 24 | 14 | 8 |
April 25 | 11 | 6 |
April 26 | 10 | 7 |
April 27 | 13 | 9 |
April 28 | 25 | 16 |
April 29 | 6 | 4 |
April 30 | 15 | 12 |
May 1 | 11 | 8 |
May 2 | 7 | 2 |
May 3 | 1 | |
May 4 | 6 | |
May 5 | 5 | |
May 6 | 4 | |
May 7 | 7 | |
May 8 | 5 | |
May 9 | 3 | |
May 10 | 7 | |
May 11 | 2 | |
May 12 | 5 | |
May 13 | 8 | |
May 14 | ||
May 15 | ||
May 16 | ||
Total | 289 | 127 |
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Nominations
[edit]Older nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on March 15
[edit]Transgender health care misinformation
- ... that over 20 states in the United States have restricted gender-affirming care for transgender minors, with transgender health care misinformation being one factor behind such bans?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The DYK timed out as the article underwent a GAR - a GA3 and the GAR found keep so relisting with the alt discussed at Template:Did you know nominations/Transgender health care misinformation.
I also second Launchballer's idea that it be used for Transgender Day Of Visibility (March 31). Courtesy pings to @Starship.paint, Narutolovehinata5, SL93, and Launchballer:
Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 18:52, 16 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: @Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist: This is a great hook, and I find it interesting. A few initial concerns:
- The hook fact is sourced to a press release from the Endocrine Society, which means it is a self-published expert primary source.
- A close reading of the press release indicates that the exact wording is slightly different from the hook. It says: "Although the scientific landscape has not changed significantly, misinformation about gender-affirming care is being politicized. In the United States, 24 states have enacted laws or policies barring adolescents’ access to gender-affirming care, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. In seven states, the policies also include provisions that would prevent at least some adults over age 18 from accessing gender-affirming care."
- The hook fact should adhere as close as possible to the source. I wonder if you can find other secondary sources to support the current wording of the hook or if you can rewrite it for parity. Attribution might also be needed.
- I like the hook image, but the caption is too long, and the legend (key) is too small. I wonder if there is a way to convey this info in a brief caption
- More later. Viriditas (talk) 23:50, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you! My apologies for missing your reply, unsure why I never got the notification. Responding to your points
- 1)
which means it is a self-published expert primary source
- I think this characterization is innacurate. Self-published refers to things like Twitter and Medium, not statements from international medical organizations. Per WP:MEDORG/WP:MEDASSESS it's a good source and per WP:MEDDEFA primary source is one in which the authors directly participated in the research and documented their personal experiences
whileA secondary source summarizes one or more primary or secondary sources to provide an overview of current understanding of the topic, to make recommendations, or to combine results of several studies. Examples include ... medical guidelines or position statements published by major health organizations
so this is secondary. - 2) The wording was based on discussions with Starship.paint for the last DYK nom - I'm open to changing it but unsure how. The source later says
Transgender and gender-diverse teenagers, their parents, and physicians should be able to determine the appropriate course of treatment. Banning evidence-based medical care based on misinformation takes away the ability of parents and patients to make informed decisions.
The Endocrine Society's been consistent with saying these bans are based on misinfo, in 2023 sayingDue to widespread misinformation about medical care for transgender and gender-diverse teens, 18 states have passed laws or instituted policies banning gender-affirming care. ... Some policies are even restricting transgender and gender-diverse adults’ access to care. These policies do not reflect the research landscape.
[1] The reason the hook says trans healthcare misinfo is "one factor" is SP argued they were not taking the position these bans are always based on misinfo (I argued they were). I suggested citing the ES to say such bans are based on misinfo and another source to say how many bans exist currently, but SP said this would be SYNTH. Your call how to best reword this! - 3) Per 2 I'm down to change the wording and per 1 I don't think attribution is needed. Perhaps something like
U.S. states have banned gender-affirming care for minors based on transgender health care misinformation and over 20 states have implemented such bans
? - 4) Thanks, made it myself! Could the caption be
US state laws on trans healthcare access for youth with bans marked in shades of red and shield laws marked in blue
orUS state laws on trans healthcare access for youth - most restrictive (dark red) to most protected (dark blue)
?
- 1)
- Best, Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 19:09, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the thoughtful reply. The Endocrine Society has their clinical practice guidelines posted here and their position statements listed here. The source we are discussing is neither a clinical practice guideline nor a position statement, it is a press release. A press release is "considered a primary source, meaning they are original informants for information". WP:V, footnote 1: "Self-published material is characterized by the lack of independent reviewers (those without a conflict of interest) validating the reliability of the content. Further examples of self-published sources include press releases..." I should note that many position statements are often posted in a journal.[2][3][4][5] To be clear, I agree with the statement in the press release that says "misinformation about gender-affirming care is being politicized", and I acknowledge that a position statement or clinical practice guideline isn't likely to deal with it, however, this topic did come up during the COVID-19 pandemic and resulted in many peer-reviewed articles about misinformation and politicization. Likewise, Meredithe McNamara has studied this closely.[6][7] I'm guessing that ES is referring to the work of McNamara et al. but in the form of a press release, this is all a bit opaque. I should note that most of the MED source guidelines say to avoid press releases, so I'm a bit confused by this. I will pass this on to someone else as I generally avoid press releases for hooks, even if I agree with them, and I think the sourcing should be tightened up a bit. Given that McNamara et al. is so prolific, this seems like it should be easy to do. Viriditas (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: No problem! I don't think the ES was directly referring to McNamara et al but more so the wave of anti-trans laws. However, I did find a better source / hook if you want to consider that instead of dealing with the question of using a press release!
that due to transgender health care misinformation, over 20 states in the United States have banned gender-affirming care for transgender minors since 2021?
[8] Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 23:57, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: No problem! I don't think the ES was directly referring to McNamara et al but more so the wave of anti-trans laws. However, I did find a better source / hook if you want to consider that instead of dealing with the question of using a press release!
- Thank you for the thoughtful reply. The Endocrine Society has their clinical practice guidelines posted here and their position statements listed here. The source we are discussing is neither a clinical practice guideline nor a position statement, it is a press release. A press release is "considered a primary source, meaning they are original informants for information". WP:V, footnote 1: "Self-published material is characterized by the lack of independent reviewers (those without a conflict of interest) validating the reliability of the content. Further examples of self-published sources include press releases..." I should note that many position statements are often posted in a journal.[2][3][4][5] To be clear, I agree with the statement in the press release that says "misinformation about gender-affirming care is being politicized", and I acknowledge that a position statement or clinical practice guideline isn't likely to deal with it, however, this topic did come up during the COVID-19 pandemic and resulted in many peer-reviewed articles about misinformation and politicization. Likewise, Meredithe McNamara has studied this closely.[6][7] I'm guessing that ES is referring to the work of McNamara et al. but in the form of a press release, this is all a bit opaque. I should note that most of the MED source guidelines say to avoid press releases, so I'm a bit confused by this. I will pass this on to someone else as I generally avoid press releases for hooks, even if I agree with them, and I think the sourcing should be tightened up a bit. Given that McNamara et al. is so prolific, this seems like it should be easy to do. Viriditas (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you! My apologies for missing your reply, unsure why I never got the notification. Responding to your points
New reviewer requested. Viriditas (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Seeing as I have a more in depth knowledge on this article, I will give it a DYK review.
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Overall: I do see the issues that the other reviewer mentioned. I can see where they are coming from but because this hook is not biomedical info it doesn't require as strict of sources. If I remember correctly, press releases can be used as RS If used cautiously. I think using a press release from a reliable society and the fact that is stating things that can be easily verified (as in the policy changes and that misinformation has played a role) makes it appropriate here. I do not think that the image is clear at 100px due to the legend. I would support this hook without the image. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 23:42, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @IntentionallyDense: I appreciate all the time you've devoted to this, but please read WP:DYKRR: "You're not allowed to approve your own hook or article, nor may you review an article if it's a recently listed good article that you either nominated or reviewed for GA (though you can still nominate it for DYK)." Since you passed Talk:Transgender health care misinformation/GA3, we need a new reviewer. Viriditas (talk) 00:05, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oops I didn't know this and had reviewed DYK hooks for article I reviewed in the past. Good to know this moving forward, thank you! IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 00:41, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
New reviewer needed. Viriditas (talk) 00:05, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
About the image, could we proclaim "skill issue" and just crop the image to only a map and then make the caption "states with stricter bans are colored more red"? I'd prefer brevity, but we could also add "gender-affirming care" before "bans" and "and stronger shield laws more blue" to the end of that caption if needed. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:59, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Full review I find that the article meets all the criteria (length, recency, NPOV, sources, plagiarism, etc.) but I share concern about the image. I would not run it. I would say that misinformation is only one of many factors behind bans on GAC. Arguably, it's the same factors that cause both misinformation and bans (i.e. anti-trans bias). I think that a better supported and more interesting hook could be made from some of the more outrageous claims made by anti-trans activists. (t · c) buidhe 21:06, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- buidhe, a full review needs an icon showing the current status of the nomination. Please add one. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:44, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- What do you think of my "crop + caption" suggestion? Aaron Liu (talk) 03:54, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I don't think that any caption of the expected briefness can sufficiently explain the coloring on the map. (t · c) buidhe 04:29, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: Thank you for taking on this review! Some quick alternative hook idea, please let me know which you think is best/most promising:
- ALT1
...that misinformation about rapid onset gender dysphoria was used to limit the rights of transgender adolescents?
[9] - ALT2
...that transgender health care misinformation includes the claim that most trans children will cease desiring to transition after puberty?
[10] - ALT3
...that transgender health care misinformation includes claims that gender dysphoria is caused by trauma or neurodivergence?
[11] Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 15:30, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1
Since there are no quotes I will have to double check the sources when I get home. Otherwisethese look good to me. I did make a couple of edits to help make the hooks more concise. (t · c) buidhe 19:24, 3 May 2025 (UTC)@Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist and Buidhe:I was going to promote ALT1, but I'm not sure about
was used to limit the rights
in the past tense. The article just says "over 100 bills under consideration in legislative bodies across the country that seek to limit the rights". Have any of these bills passed into law? If not, then the wording isn't quite right. RoySmith (talk) 19:16, 9 May 2025 (UTC)- Not sure why that specific source was provided, but to me ALT1 can be just a paraphrase of ALT0. Aaron Liu (talk) 20:37, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: TBH I'd prefer ALT2 or 3 to 1 since 1 currently doesn't include the article title (and the misinformation about ROGD is that it exists). If doing a variation on ALT1, I think the best phrasing would be:
- ALT4: ... that transgender health care misinformation about rapid-onset gender dysphoria was cited in many of over 100 bills in the U.S. which sought to limit the rights of transgender youth in 2021?
- Relatedly, if we can turn this around in time, May 17th is the International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia and would be a good/topical day to post it! Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 17:51, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Where is that stated in the article? RoySmith (talk) 18:01, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Transgender health care misinformation#Social contagion and rapid onset gender dysphoria states
[The CAAPS Statement] stated that "there is no evidence that ROGD aligns with the lived experiences of transgender children and adolescents" and that "the proliferation of misinformation regarding ROGD" had led to "over 100 bills under consideration in legislative bodies across the country that seek to limit the rights of transgender adolescents" predicated on ROGD's unsupported claims
and CAAPS statedThe proliferation of misinformation regarding ROGD is also infiltrating policy decisions. Currently [statement published 7/26/2021], there are over 100 bills under consideration in legislative bodies across the country that seek to limit the rights of transgender adolescents, many of which are predicated on the unsupported claims advanced by ROGD.
Unsure if by article you meant the wiki-article or CAAPS statement so provided citations to both Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 18:23, 10 May 2025 (UTC)- I'm sorry, but I'm still not seeing this. What is CAAPS? That's not in the article anywhere (and by "article" I mean Transgender health care misinformation). But more to the point, the proposed hook talks about the bills "citing" something, and I can't find anything that talks about "citing", so I'm not really sure what the hook is trying to say. RoySmith (talk) 20:31, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Gotcha, my bad. CAAPS is the coalition referred to in the article as a "coalition of psychological professional bodies" which released the position statement cited in the hook.[12] I see what you mean about "citing" now, to better follow the source would you be ok with updating alt4 to
that transgender health care misinformation about rapid-onset gender dysphoria was the basis of many of over 100 bills in the U.S. which sought to limit the rights of transgender youth in 2021
? Alternatively, instead of "was the basis of many", "predicated many" Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 21:06, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Gotcha, my bad. CAAPS is the coalition referred to in the article as a "coalition of psychological professional bodies" which released the position statement cited in the hook.[12] I see what you mean about "citing" now, to better follow the source would you be ok with updating alt4 to
- I'm sorry, but I'm still not seeing this. What is CAAPS? That's not in the article anywhere (and by "article" I mean Transgender health care misinformation). But more to the point, the proposed hook talks about the bills "citing" something, and I can't find anything that talks about "citing", so I'm not really sure what the hook is trying to say. RoySmith (talk) 20:31, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Transgender health care misinformation#Social contagion and rapid onset gender dysphoria states
- For what it's worth, I also agree with running this on 17 May. (Very popular day for date requests, as it happens.)--Launchballer 23:01, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Where is that stated in the article? RoySmith (talk) 18:01, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer needed for alt4 and to approve 17 May date request. Kingsif (talk) 00:46, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
Is it normal to propose running a DYK for an article where there is active discussion about the suitability of the sourcing on the Talk page? Sweet6970 (talk) 15:46, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Articles with questionable sourcing are nominated at DYK all the time, yeah. Whether they run or not depends on how quickly it's resolved. Kingsif (talk) 23:23, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
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Given that the nomination is timing out tomorrow, the above concerns raised in the new-collapsed section, and ongoing concerns regarding the article's sourcing, it unfortunately does not seem like we can run the article in its current state. It seems too unstable and it does not seem like the issues will be resolved anytime soon, especially with how heated the discussions have become. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:31, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:DYKTIMEOUT:
However, if a nomination timed out while it was waiting for a review or a re-review, consider reviewing the nomination rather than rejecting it.
- but I'm done with this. This DYK was proposed in January, it was put on hold pending a GAR, the GAR concluded it was a GA, and now sourcing concerns by one editor are being used to justify deleting a DYK nom where none of the hooks are even related to the issues they raised and are all sourced to MEDORGs. And you double-counted the talk concerns and notification of talk concerns here as two separate issues of concerns. Frankly, this is ridiculous and I never want to deal with DYK again. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 16:23, 15 May 2025 (UTC)- You could also just work on the issues. Two (Vox, "rare") of the three remaining issues have solutions with consensus. These two just need to be implemented. Even without a timeout, a DYK won't continue with outstanding quality concerns. DYK is about featuring an entire article to the main page, not just the section with the hook. And I think the two concerns Naruto referred to are the one about uncertainty (the one without a solution) and the ones raised in "unsupported claims". I understand your frustration with the issues not being raised earlier but I think Naruto did the right things here. Aaron Liu (talk) 17:09, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- FWIW, User:Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist, Naruto has been closing out almost every DYK that runs up against the clock, so it wasn't personal. Also, you shouldn't give up. You can still bring this to FAC and have it featured on the main page. Sometimes an overabundance of criticism can lead to better things. It's all how you look at it. All hope is not yet lost. Viriditas (talk) 22:52, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:DYKTIMEOUT:
Articles created/expanded on March 16
[edit]Arrow-class oil tanker

- ... that during World War II, the name of an Arrow-class oil tanker, SS Japan Arrow, was changed by the American government to "avoid any unfortunate association of ideas"?
- Source:
"In February 1942, after Pearl Harbor, Japan Arrow was renamed American Arrow, to avoid any unfortunate association of ideas."
https://www.aukevisser.nl/mobil/id636.htm
"..as Japan Arrow (later renamed American Arrow).." https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/c/chotauk.html
- Reviewed:
Created by PhoenixCaelestis (talk) and GGOTCC (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.PhoenixCaelestis • Talk • Contributions 11:39, 17 March 2025 (UTC).
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- Adequate sourcing:
- This article leans very heavily on assorted articles from "Auke Visser's MOBIL Tankers & Tugs Site"
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Nearest two citations are several sentences away, and neither seem to contain this quote. Also, the quote itself isn't in the article, though a close paraphrase is.
- Interesting:
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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Overall: Overall a well-done article, and the hook citation issue can presumably be fixed quickly, but I am seriously concerned about whether "Auke Visser's MOBIL Tankers & Tugs Site" is an WP:RS. A self-published source like would be acceptable if they were a subject matter expert, but I can't find any evidence of that. Rusalkii (talk) 00:47, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
@Rusalkii: Japan Arrow has an entry in the Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships [[14]] that states that it was renamed in February 1942, however it does not specify the reason. Due to the time period and the events, I do not think it is a stretch to say it was due to the fact that America was now at war with Japan. I'd be willing to rephrase the hook to remove the quote. Perhaps as, "that to avoid association with the enemy during World War II, the name of the Arrow-class oil tanker, SS Japan Arrow, was changed by the American government?" Just a thought for a possible reword. Thanks for taking the time to examine the DYK nomination! PhoenixCaelestis • Talk • Contributions 19:42, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis: The issue isn't with just the hook, it's how heavily the article in general relies on this source. Rusalkii (talk) 21:33, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis and Rusalkii: Has the above concern been resolved, and is this ready for re-review? Z1720 (talk) 13:28, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Currently trying one last time to find further evidence of why the name was changed. If I am unable to do so I don't think this nomination will go through, unfortunately. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 14:05, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis: I will close this in 24 hours if evidence isn't provided.--Launchballer 15:31, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis: The issue isn't with just the hook, it's how heavily the article in general relies on this source. Rusalkii (talk) 21:33, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis, Rusalkii, and Launchballer: While there are issues with the proposed hook, consider another hook — ALT1: " ... that five of the twelve Arrow-class oil tankers built for Standard Oil were sunk by German U-boats during World War II?" — ERcheck (talk) 03:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- I would be willing to do that hook, and I even have a [source for it]. Specifically, I am referring to the chart on page 18; we could alternatively Arthur Gordon's The Mobil Book of Ships: A Century at Sea, which the document itself cites as its source for the chart. However, perhaps a different image could be used for this new hook? "File:Allied tanker torpedoed.jpg" is an infamous photo of Dixie Arrow commonly used to represent Allied shipping losses in the Atlantic as a whole. I'm thinking that one would be good to include, but if there are other ideas/objections I am open to them. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 11:10, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis: If you propose the above image for the ALT1 hook, the image must be included in the article itself. As for providing a source, consider using the appropriate citation to the sentence in the lead paragraph. — ERcheck (talk) 17:35, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 22
[edit]The Dark Domain
- ... that the short story "In the Compartment," included in Stefan Grabiński's The Dark Domain, eroticizes train travel in an unsettling, modernist style? Source: Clute and Stableford as cited, among others
- ALT1: ... that The Dark Domain, widely considered to be its author's debut in English six decades after his death, has been praised as evidence placing him "within the canon of supernatural greats"? Source: quote from Brian Stableford, cited in article. For widely considered issue, see footnote, and note all other sources call this his debut. Note all reviews I've seen or references to them have been very positive, so the quote is not cherry picked.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Xiao Yedan
- Comment: ALT0 might be more hooky due to "erotic", but ALT1 is more informative. Shrug.
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: I assume good faith on the references that I can't access. Either hook works. SL93 (talk) 22:33, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
@Piotrus and SL93: There is likely a more clear way to phrase ALT1. Jarvis (2017) says:
- THE DARK DOMAIN
In 1986, Miroslaw Lipinski, a Polish American translator based in New York City, published a home-printed journal, The Grabiński Reader. It contained translations of two stories by the early twentieth-century Polish writer of the fantastic, Stefan Grabiński: “The Area” and “Strabismus.” These were the first translations of Grabiński’s work into English. Over the next few years, Lipinski published more Grabiński translations in further issues of The Grabiński Reader and in small press anthologies. Then, in 1993, Lipinski’s Grabiński translations were collected in The Dark Domain, published by UK-based independent press Dedalus.
So the stories had been previously published in what sounds like a zine. The Dark Domain was his first English-language anthology. And it was the first time his work was distributed by a publisher, versus the homemade journal/zine. I feel like there are a lot of ways to make what the book is more clear both in the hook and in the article. The article calls this "the first time Grabiński's works were published in English
" and then follows that up with footnote a giving the context above. It would be much more clear to write the article chronologically with the footnote worked into the body text. Rjjiii (talk) 05:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: If you have an idea on how to reword either the article or the hook, WP:BEBOLD :) But I am not sure what you are asking me to do? What I wrote is the best way I've come up with. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:52, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry for rambling. I think the "debut in English" hook could be easily read in a way that seems to be false and therefore doesn't meet WP:V. I'm stretched a bit thin on-wiki right now, but if anybody proposes other hooks you are welcome to {{ping}} me. I don't have strong opinions on the other hook, but a strict reading of WP:DYKFICTION would rule it out as well. Good luck, Rjjiii (talk) 02:50, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'll ping a person more familiar with English than me, to see whether they share your concerns and/or can suggest a new hook or hooks: User:Nihil novi. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:44, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry for rambling. I think the "debut in English" hook could be easily read in a way that seems to be false and therefore doesn't meet WP:V. I'm stretched a bit thin on-wiki right now, but if anybody proposes other hooks you are welcome to {{ping}} me. I don't have strong opinions on the other hook, but a strict reading of WP:DYKFICTION would rule it out as well. Good luck, Rjjiii (talk) 02:50, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 23
[edit]List of Byzantine churches in Amman
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- ... that the city of Amman, called Philadelphia during late antiquity, contains several Byzantine churches in it (example pictured)?
Makeandtoss (talk) 12:01, 24 March 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review but I don't see how the hook is interesting or the historical name is relevant. You can combine the two nominations and make a double hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Philadelphia (Amman). It has a possibility to be something quirky, playing on the double meaning of Philadelphia. Yeshivish613 (talk) 21:07, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- The hook is probably indeed not that interesting, so would go with ALT1: "... that some of the Byzantine churches in Philadelphia, modern-day Amman, were repurposed from earlier Roman temples?" Makeandtoss (talk) 09:18, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
Long enough, new enough. Earwig's clean and QPQ is done. ALT1's still fairly bland, but that's not important right now. As written, this would deserve {{one source}}, which begs the question; what makes this meet WP:NLIST?--Launchballer 14:07, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Per NLIST: "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; and other guidelines on appropriate stand-alone lists. The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been." These churches are described as a group in this source [15], so this should fulfill the guideline. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:14, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- The guideline asks that the topic be discussed by independent reliable sources, emphasis mine. I don't think one source is sufficient for that.--Launchballer 14:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I added another source: [16] Makeandtoss (talk) 14:27, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- You mean the bare URL, used once? One source is for articles that are largely based on one source, which this still is.--Launchballer 15:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I have fixed the bare url and used it in two more locations. If notability for lists is established through having these groupings made by reliable sources, then we have now two sources establishing that. Makeandtoss (talk) 08:33, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Just a friendly reminder. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:24, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
This should be fine.--Launchballer 14:39, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Just a friendly reminder. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:24, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I have fixed the bare url and used it in two more locations. If notability for lists is established through having these groupings made by reliable sources, then we have now two sources establishing that. Makeandtoss (talk) 08:33, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- You mean the bare URL, used once? One source is for articles that are largely based on one source, which this still is.--Launchballer 15:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I added another source: [16] Makeandtoss (talk) 14:27, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- The guideline asks that the topic be discussed by independent reliable sources, emphasis mine. I don't think one source is sufficient for that.--Launchballer 14:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
I'm not convinced universes.art is a WP:RS for two reasons. First, it's not clear what editorial oversight there is for content. Second, it's a site dedicated to art. Whatever reliability it may have in that domain doesn't necessarially cary over to archeology, which is what we're using it for. RoySmith (talk) 15:03, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Makeandtoss: Please address the above.--Launchballer 12:55, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Replaced with RS. Makeandtoss (talk) 17:39, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: Do you have any other objections?--Launchballer 17:41, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Replaced with RS. Makeandtoss (talk) 17:39, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 24
[edit]Wang Huning
- ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect behind Chinese Communist Party's political ideologies since the 1990s under paramount leaders Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping?
- ALT1: ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect behind Chinese Communist Party's political ideologies under paramount leaders Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping? Source: https://www.palladiummag.com/2021/10/11/the-triumph-and-terror-of-wang-huning/
- ALT2: ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect of Chinese Communist Party ideologies the Three Represents, the Scientific Outlook on Development and Xi Jinping Thought? Source: https://www.economist.com/china/2017/11/02/the-meaning-of-the-man-behind-chinas-ideology
- ALT3: ... that Wang Huning is among the top leaders and is a leading ideologist of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)? Source: https://english.aawsat.com/opinion/5081148-man-who-shaped-china%E2%80%99s-strongman-rule-has-new-job-winning-taiwan (NYT)
- Reviewed:
The Account 2 (talk) 22:10, 24 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment The first two are somewhat tangential by naming the paramount leaders. The main subject is Wang Huning and his ideologies. I find it interesting they are named and linked because I'd never heard of the ideologies before. -- GreenC 01:17, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Is the third one satisfactory? The Account 2 (talk) 11:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I take.--Launchballer 15:30, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Long enough, new enough. No QPQ necessary as you have less than five nominations. There are some very long sentences in here I'm surprised didn't get split at GA, but that's not a DYK criterion. Reading the article made me sleepy and I'll review copyright and the hook when I'm more awake.--Launchballer 15:43, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
@The Account 2, GreenC, and TheUzbek: I see phrases that are straight out of sources and these should have been spotted at GA, so pinging its reviewer as well. All three sources used for ALT2 are paywalled, so AGFing, although the hook wants trimming to ALT2a: ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect of three Chinese Communist Party ideologies?--Launchballer 17:18, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Is the third one satisfactory? The Account 2 (talk) 11:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- @The Account 2, GreenC, and TheUzbek: Please address the above.--Launchballer 15:35, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- "..considered to be..." suggests there are others who might disagree or this is only an opinion by someone. Why not just say "..is the..", because if this is not unambiguous it doesn't belong in DYK. -- GreenC 15:43, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer, GreenC, and The Account 2: I forgot about this!
- I think I conducted a thorough review, as seen here. Most of the copyright violations I see are direct "quotes", but do you have any specific examples?
- I don't agree with the DYK texts. As I myself wrote in the review, Wang Huning was not the principal architect of these ideologies. No party document states that. THe article does not state that either.
- I hope this helps Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheUzbek (talk • contribs)
- "..considered to be..." suggests there are others who might disagree or this is only an opinion by someone. Why not just say "..is the..", because if this is not unambiguous it doesn't belong in DYK. -- GreenC 15:43, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @The Account 2, GreenC, and TheUzbek: Please address the above.--Launchballer 15:35, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
I added "ALT3" to get this moving along. It's from the lead section summary. I don't why anyone could disagree with these statements. -- GreenC 17:09, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging reviewer Launchballer, since the previous ping wouldn't have gone through without a sig. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:15, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- I would recommend inspecting Earwig yourself, but to give examples, the sentences containing the words 'exposed' and 'elimination' need rewording per WP:CLOP.--Launchballer 17:51, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 25
[edit]United States government group chat leak
- ... that Trump's vice president, defense secretary, state secretary, intelligence director, and security advisor leaked military plans to a journalist after accidentally adding him to their group chat (pictured)?
- ALT1: ... that Trump's national security advisor, Mike Waltz, accidentally added a journalist to a group chat (pictured) in which he and other US national security leaders shared military attack plans?
- Reviewed: Thin mouse shrew
- Comment: I only named the top contributor as the author. The rest of the hard-working editors appear to have all contributed an equal amount, and it would not have been practical to name them all.
Surtsicna (talk) 08:40, 28 March 2025 (UTC).
- The addition of the journalist to the group still seems unexplained. Various theories have been expressed and Musk has been asked to make a technical investigation. So, the suggested hooks (orig and ALT1) are premature in stating a definitive explanation in Wikipedia's voice. We need more ALTs. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:47, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Could you be more specific, Andrew? The lead of the article unequivocally states that Goldberg was erroneously added by Waltz. Is that not an indisputable fact? What are the other 'theories'? Should the article mention them? Surtsicna (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a reliable source. The lead of the article does not provide a citation for its statement. WP:V is Wikipedia 101 and providing a clearly cited statement is a fundamental requirement per WP:DYKHOOK. For some theories, see Was Signal-gate a mistake, hack or knife in the back?. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:00, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- I am not citing Wikipedia as a source. The article cites its sources, obviously not in the lead. The 'analysis' you linked rests solely on the assumption that Waltz could not have been incompetent enough to do this, and that assumption is not shared by any significant portion of reliable sources. The 'theories' seem to be fringe. If you disagree and think they should be included in the article, I suggest starting a thread at the talk page. Surtsicna (talk) 21:31, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, the theories are not fringe; they all seem reasonably plausible and there's no solid evidence yet for any particular scenario. And pointing to an uncited portion of the lead is not the way that DYK works, "
The facts of the hook in the article should be cited no later than the end of the sentence in which they appear
". Andrew🐉(talk) 21:49, 31 March 2025 (UTC)- Plausibility is not what determines whether a theory is fringe or not. The fact of the hook is indeed cited at the end of the sentence in which it appears. Should the citation be repeated in the lead section? DYK does not say, and if that is the issue you have with the nomination, it is very easily fixed. Surtsicna (talk) 06:48, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- No, the theories are not fringe; they all seem reasonably plausible and there's no solid evidence yet for any particular scenario. And pointing to an uncited portion of the lead is not the way that DYK works, "
- I am not citing Wikipedia as a source. The article cites its sources, obviously not in the lead. The 'analysis' you linked rests solely on the assumption that Waltz could not have been incompetent enough to do this, and that assumption is not shared by any significant portion of reliable sources. The 'theories' seem to be fringe. If you disagree and think they should be included in the article, I suggest starting a thread at the talk page. Surtsicna (talk) 21:31, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a reliable source. The lead of the article does not provide a citation for its statement. WP:V is Wikipedia 101 and providing a clearly cited statement is a fundamental requirement per WP:DYKHOOK. For some theories, see Was Signal-gate a mistake, hack or knife in the back?. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:00, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Could you be more specific, Andrew? The lead of the article unequivocally states that Goldberg was erroneously added by Waltz. Is that not an indisputable fact? What are the other 'theories'? Should the article mention them? Surtsicna (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I feel like the answer in both these cases is, yes, I did know that. I feel like we ought to be able to find a hook that would actually be something most folks don't know. Valereee (talk) 13:57, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Most people in the US probably, but Wikipedia is written for a wider audience. Of course you may suggest alternative hooks. Surtsicna (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- This has been international news for a week now. I've read the article, nothing jumps out at me other than the fact Signal allows deletion, which is against record-keeping laws. Maybe we could build a hook around that? I dunno...that gets into negative about a BLP. Valereee (talk) 17:11, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Most people in the US probably, but Wikipedia is written for a wider audience. Of course you may suggest alternative hooks. Surtsicna (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alternative hooks could be based on how Goldberg's number got on Waltz's phone (see article talk page), or on the TeleMessage hack.
@Noble Attempt, Surtsicna, Andrew Davidson, and Valereee: Not seeing a hook on this page that meets WP:DYKINT.--Launchballer 01:20, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- I hadn't followed the latest developments and so didn't know that an investigation had determined a plausible way that Goldberg's number was added to the chat. This update might interest others who want to know the latest. So, please consider ALT2 for which a source is How the Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg got added to the White House Signal group chat. The hook deliberately doesn't get into the weeds of the technicalities as they seem too complex to explain briefly. The idea is to get readers to click through for the details. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:58, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that the White House forensic investigation of Signalgate has determined the way in which a journalist was included in the group chat about Operation Rough Rider (pictured)?
Articles created/expanded on March 27
[edit]2025 U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reorganization, Administration for a Healthy America
- ... that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has announced a reorganization of U.S. federal health agencies he says will "make America healthy again" by creating a new Administration for a Healthy America and firing 20,000 workers?
- Source: "HHS Announces Transformation to Make America Healthy Again... The restructuring results in a total downsizing from 82,000 to 62,000 full-time employees... The restructuring plan will... includ[e] a new Administration for a Healthy America." [17]; "The Trump administration Thursday announced a major restructuring of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services that will cut 20,000 full-time jobs." [18]
- Reviewed: Façade (video game), Funding-by-lottery
Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 22:54, 30 March 2025 (UTC).
- Looking more into the details, but it is immediately a bit of a flag that the hook is sourced to hhs.gov. This is a primary source, and the hook adds interpretation. The "firing 20,000 workers" for example, is in the source a result of the restructuring "combined with HHS’ other efforts", whereas the source directly says the restructuring will fire 10,000 workers. CMD (talk) 03:19, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: I can provide independent sources that also confirm the hook fact, if needed. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 05:26, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- That is needed, but there is similar concerns for the current body. 2025 U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reorganization also emphasizes 20,000 in the text, whereas the source article emphasizes 10,000. CMD (talk) 06:41, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: I can provide independent sources that also confirm the hook fact, if needed. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 05:26, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Okay, the 20,000 appears in an NPR source used in the article. Perhaps duplicate that one to the relevant locations? Both articles are new enough and long enough. QPQs are done.
- 2025 U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reorganization
The sourcing for the first paragraph of the Background section is not entirely clear, I am unsure how to draw the conclusions of the first paragraph from them. The first sentence of the second paragraph seems true, although not explicit in the sources. The rest of that paragraph is fully supported. The third paragraph is also supported, although determining what the "order required" would be better with secondary sources.
Provisions similarly is mostly sourced to the primary announcement. This is a better use for a primary source, but there is still a bit of interpretation, for example the hss.gov announcement doesn't state that NIOSH is moving from the CDC (although it does say something is moving to the CDC). This seems like the sort of text that could use quotation marks to directly convey part of the primary document. The final bullet point has secondary sources, but is also not something covered in the original press release or its associated "fact sheet" (which is about the same length as the press release), which does suggest that the restructuring goes beyond the press release and so more sources would be helpful to analyze it. (I also tried to do a bit of searching to figure out what the current "28" divisions are, I was unable to find something clear in a quick look.)
The "HHS is said" opinion should probably be attributed directly to Kennedy. Spotchecks in Reduction in force subsection found no issues. On Implementation, "the former being given extra time to scrutinize the firing plans" is not my reading of the source, which is light on details but might suggest it was the unilateral decision of the HHS officials rather than something they were given. I cannot find support for "Some employees cited fears about political interference in health data" in its attached source. CMD (talk) 09:26, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Administration for a Healthy America
This article is a bit short, especially as a lot of its current content is summaries of various agencies and departments. It is also very reliant on primary sources, especially outside of these summaries. However, it is only an announced agency, so more sourcing will likely become available with time, and given the length is a clear pass on the first article, I am inclined to pass this one on length alongside it.
Going back to the hook, another issue is that it is putting quite a lot of topics together: the reorganization, Kennedy's slogan, the new administration, and the firings. It would be better to refine to a couple of key points with clear links. CMD (talk) 09:40, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: Thanks for the thorough review. I added the NPR article to the hook sources above, and I improved the sourcing in the Background section. In the Implementation section, the article reports that the cuts were made by DOGE and initially without HHS leadership input, although their sources conflict: see the two paragraphs starting with "The backlash reached a boiling point..." I removed the sentence about political interference, since that's a separate issue from the reorganization anyway.
- More generally, one issue is that reorganizations don't take effect until they are published in the Federal Register, and I'm watching out for that. The press release clearly doesn't contain all of the details of the reorganization; it states the number of top-level units will be reduced by 13, but the changes actually listed would only reduce it by 10. (The list of 28 top-level units is here.) A few details have been reported by the press that are not in the announcement, such as the movement of the non-infectious disease CDC divisions into AHA, although NIOSH is explicitly mentioned in the announcement. Until there is a further announcement or Federal Register publication, these are the most reliable sources available.
- For the hook, "Make America Healthy Again" is literally in the title of the announcement, as are the new agency and the magnitude of the cuts, and these elements are all reported on in independent sources, so there's no WP:SYNTHESIS here. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 00:27, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- I did find that organizational chart, but it has 27 light grey boxes, and five blue boxes, so I'm not sure which ones they're counting to reach 28. "Make American Healthy Again" is in the title of the announcement, but it is not exactly framed in the same way, and this is again a primary source being weaved into this. Relying on further announcements and federal registers still leaves us with a reliance on interpreting primary sources. CMD (talk) 03:53, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: I believe the Office of Intergovernmental and External Affairs, listed at the top, gets the count to 28. Do you have specific requests needed for DYK passage at this point? Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 02:37, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- I have the same concerns regarding the proposed hook as I did before. On the article, where the text relies heavily or exclusively on primary sources, it would be better to have quotations rather than an interpretation. CMD (talk) 03:01, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: I have added inline citations to secondary sources for all statements also sourced to the HHS press release. In any case, these statements do not contain any interpretation as they are routine paraphrases, and direct quotations would not be appropriate. For the hook, I'd like to clarify whether your issue is based on verifiability or on presentation. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 01:53, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- The statements appear to be going beyond routine paraphrasing. As I mentioned, the initial position of NIOSH in CDC is not from that source (or the NPR one), similarly the Office of the Secretary is also an addition. The five original bullet points were shortened to three, and then a fourth new one was added to the same list from other sources, which changes the emphasis of the primary source. The concerns with the hook involve both, the presentation (if by that you mean the pulling together of different bits of content) is weaker because it is an interpretation of a primary source. CMD (talk) 04:12, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: I have added inline citations to secondary sources for all statements also sourced to the HHS press release. In any case, these statements do not contain any interpretation as they are routine paraphrases, and direct quotations would not be appropriate. For the hook, I'd like to clarify whether your issue is based on verifiability or on presentation. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 01:53, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have the same concerns regarding the proposed hook as I did before. On the article, where the text relies heavily or exclusively on primary sources, it would be better to have quotations rather than an interpretation. CMD (talk) 03:01, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: I believe the Office of Intergovernmental and External Affairs, listed at the top, gets the count to 28. Do you have specific requests needed for DYK passage at this point? Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 02:37, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
@Chipmunkdavis: I've added refs for NIOSH being in CDC, and the three offices being under the Office of the Secretary, which was a very simple change to make. No, the five points are not collapsed to three; three of them are in the first block on new agencies, and the other two make up the block about existing agencies. Please read the article carefully in order to avoid mistakes like this.
There is no interpretation at all in this section, only routine paraphrasing and reflecting the due balance of the available reliable sources, which are expected for all Wikipedia article. Quoting large portions of a primary text in this situation is against policy, so if you continue to insist on it, we'll have to bring in a new reviewer to settle the matter. The hook is also not an interpretation, all its elements are directly stated in the same the primary source and confirmed by multiple secondary sources. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 22:18, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- I've read the article, thank you. Splitting one list into two based on your inferred context is another clear example of interpreting a primary source. CMD (talk) 02:45, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
I'm sorry, that's routine copyediting, not interpretation. We will need a new reviewer to settle this, as we apparently do not agree on what Wikipedia policy is, or even on the definitions of basic words. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 03:20, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 28
[edit]Sri Jumahaliah Hanifa
- ... that Sri Jumahaliah Hanifa was the first woman to head the University of Indonesia law school? Source: Oppusunggu, Yu Un (1 January 2008). "In Memoriam Prof. Mr. Dr. Sudargo Gautama". Jurnal Hukum & Pembangunan.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Beringia (dog sled race)
- Comment: If possible, please include the image alongside the hook, I'm ok with waiting for a while until the image could be included!
Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 07:03, 28 March 2025 (UTC).
The article is new enough and long enough and adequately sourced. I did not find any close paraphrasing. All but one source is in Indonesian and offline so AGF. The picture is okay and properly licensed. However, while a QPQ has been provided, it is an incomplete review (it only checked for interestingness and length but not all of the criteria, whether explicitly or implicitly). The article does not mention her date of death, but apparently the obituary does give a date in 2008? My Indonesian is very basic and rusty, and the Google Translate translation is ambiguous: was the 2008 date her date of death, or when they learned the news of her death? Finally, I'm not really that big of a fan of the hook: is there nothing else about her that can be said? If there are no other options, we can probably go with it, but I just want to know if you have any other options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:44, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Whew! Thank you for the very extensive and thorough review. I think I have to adress some of your points: regarding the QPQ, I've checked all references given, the shortness of the hook, and there aren't much to comment about other aspects of the article other than its interestingness and length. Regarding the obituary, it wasn't her obituary; it was another law professor's obituary. In the second-to-last page of the obituary, there is this statement: Sebagai seorang Guru Besar, Prof. Gautama memiliki sejumlah asisten. Di antara mereka adalah almh. Ny. S. J. Hanifah Wiknjosastro, S.H., yang menjadi dekan wanita pertama di FHUI periode 1978-1984 (As a Professor, Prof. Gautama had a number of assistants. Among them was the late Mrs. S. J. Hanifah Wiknjosastro, S.H., who became the first female dean at FHUI for the period 1978-1984.) Lastly, regarding the hook, I don't think there's any other options, since the article's size barely passes the DYK threshold. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:07, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- For the QPQ review, please make the checks explicit in the nomination as a promoter or other editor could reject the QPQ as being insufficiently complete. I'm also not sure if the "- ?" thing in the lede is how we treat people with known dates of birth but no known dates of death, so I found that weird. If that's standard practice then I'll let it slide, and it's not really a DYK issue anyway. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:33, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Hi uhh forgot to follow up on this. The Eeringia DYK has appeared on the mainpage a week ago with all issues fixed. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael
- For the QPQ review, please make the checks explicit in the nomination as a promoter or other editor could reject the QPQ as being insufficiently complete. I'm also not sure if the "- ?" thing in the lede is how we treat people with known dates of birth but no known dates of death, so I found that weird. If that's standard practice then I'll let it slide, and it's not really a DYK issue anyway. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:33, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 29
[edit]Targeting law firms and lawyers under the second Trump Administration
- ... that Paul Weiss committed to do $40 million of pro bono legal services in support of Trump administration goals to settle the Trump administration's executive action against the firm?
- Source: Bloomberg Tax
- Reviewed:
Remember (talk) 02:24, 31 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: @Remember: this subject is still very much in the news. Two things: 1) The formatting of the name "Paul Weiss" in your hook seems to deviate from the convention ("Paul, Weiss") used in the article. 2) Given the vast array of potential hooks in your article, you might try to go with something else or provide additional choices for reviewers. I'm just guessing, but given the topic, nobody is going to touch this unless it is less controversial. I can imagine many different hooks that don't name law firms in the hook, etc. You've got so many choices here; try to come up with a few other hooks. I suspect that will attract a reviewer or two. Viriditas (talk) 10:00, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the input! I’ll think up some alts and fix the name. Remember (talk) 10:23, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Wait, I am not seeing the "Paul, Weiss" that you mentioned. Everything is listed with the short name "Paul Weiss". Did I miss something? Remember (talk) 12:51, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- I think you might be looking at the wrong article? Try Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. It probably doesn't matter as I see the news agencies don't seem to follow that convention. I'm only seeing it used in the Wikipedia article. Viriditas (talk) 23:15, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Alt 1 ... that due to Trump settlements with law firms $940 million of pro bono work has been pledged to support causes that President Trump supports? Source: Axios Remember (talk) 12:51, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Alt 2 ...that over 500 law firms have signed an amicus brief in opposing Trump administration's executive action against law firms? Source: NYT Remember (talk) 12:54, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Wait, I am not seeing the "Paul, Weiss" that you mentioned. Everything is listed with the short name "Paul Weiss". Did I miss something? Remember (talk) 12:51, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the input! I’ll think up some alts and fix the name. Remember (talk) 10:23, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment 2: @Remember: I really like ALT1 and ALT2; you've outdone yourself. What I don't like, however, is the current state of the nominated article. The excessive quoting seems out of control, for one. The memos and executive orders should be paraphrased and briefly summarized, while also providing direct links to the full content or longer, separate footnotes outside of the main text. Viriditas (talk) 09:10, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Funny. This was an issue debated on the talk page and I lost because people wanted less full quotes. So I have revised and summarized. Let me know anything else that needs to be done. Remember (talk) 14:10, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: I wasn't aware of that. I will try and find the discussion. I'm doing a read through now as a prelude to a full review. The lead is exceptionally long and detailed, and while I'm sympathetic and partial to that style myself, I know that others will object to it. I can already see several ways to shorten it; perhaps you should forestall any such objections by attempting to shorten it yourself. Viriditas (talk) 23:15, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- I tend to like longer leads and so I'm happy to let it roll and address it later if others oppose. But if you tell me its a non-starter happy to try to shorten it. Remember (talk) 01:24, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: You've got odd capitalization in use: Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion; Executive Order(s); Attorney General, etc. Viriditas (talk) 23:45, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- I feel like you fixed these. Remember (talk) 01:24, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: I think recent changes may have duplicated material. For example, your "Presidential memorandum against Covington & Burling" section has two paragraphs, both of which seem to say the same thing. This issue may have come about through the recent paraphrasing. Just merge the two paragraphs or delete one. Viriditas (talk) 00:12, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- I made temporary fixes to some of the issues. Viriditas (talk) 01:20, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! Please let me know what else I should do since I think you may have fixed it all. Remember (talk) 01:34, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: Try to go back and see if you can replace quotes with paraphrasing. The Earwig report lights up like a Christmas tree,[19] and while these are, for the most part, false positives, we still want to reduce excessive quoting. I'm never seen Earwig give a 88.5% return before, so I think you should take another look at the article. Having just read it, I know there's excessive quoting related to commentary resembling PR, so start with that. Viriditas (talk) 01:57, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: Also make sure the hooks up above are all cited here in the nomination and in the article and that the hooks can easily be found in the prose. Viriditas (talk) 02:00, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you so much for this detailed review! I'm happy to try to make all the improvements noted and I do see other things that could be improved with the article as well. One thing I do have a question about and that is timing. I'm pretty busy in real life and so I don't know if there is a specific deadline for achieving compliance with DYK requirements on this issue. Please let me know and I will try my best to meet the internal deadlines. Thanks again for your help in reviewing the article! I really appreciate your hard work! Remember (talk) 13:17, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: In the past, timing wasn't as much of an issue, but within the last few months, it has become one, so the sooner you can paraphrase a few quotes here and there, the faster I can tick it off. You should not wait very long. In fact, if you were, let's say, to paraphrase two quotes a day for the next few days, I think that would help. Viriditas (talk) 08:57, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Sounds good. I will try my best. If it works out, great. If not, such is life. Remember (talk) 14:03, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: I started working on this. Let me know if my edits worked on summarizing quotes. Want to make sure I'm making progress. Remember (talk) 20:20, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: You're making progress. You've removed just under 10% of the quotes so far. Good job; keep at it! Viriditas (talk) 20:42, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: It's looking good. I still think the lead section is way too long. I don't see a good reason to name all the firms and lawyers in the lead. Remember, we are in the business of writing an overview of the subject, not getting into specifics. I think you can boil this all down to two large paragraphs. The important thing to keep in mind is that we are writing for people who know nothing about this subject. Consider how you would gently guide a reader through this maze. You wouldn't confuse them with list after list of firms and attorneys. You might summarize it by giving the number of attorneys and firms who were targeted, and perhaps naming the two most important or newsworthy cases. Viriditas (talk) 01:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: It just occurred to me: there's an easy compromise here. A special infobox on the right side can list all of the cases and parties, leaving the text in the lead to focus on generalities. I've seen this done elsewhere, but it only occurred to me after my second cup of coffee. Viriditas (talk) 01:23, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: That works for me. Do you have a good template to use? Remember (talk) 02:40, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: See the talk page for the article for a draft infobox Remember (talk) 02:40, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: That works for me. Do you have a good template to use? Remember (talk) 02:40, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: It just occurred to me: there's an easy compromise here. A special infobox on the right side can list all of the cases and parties, leaving the text in the lead to focus on generalities. I've seen this done elsewhere, but it only occurred to me after my second cup of coffee. Viriditas (talk) 01:23, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: It's looking good. I still think the lead section is way too long. I don't see a good reason to name all the firms and lawyers in the lead. Remember, we are in the business of writing an overview of the subject, not getting into specifics. I think you can boil this all down to two large paragraphs. The important thing to keep in mind is that we are writing for people who know nothing about this subject. Consider how you would gently guide a reader through this maze. You wouldn't confuse them with list after list of firms and attorneys. You might summarize it by giving the number of attorneys and firms who were targeted, and perhaps naming the two most important or newsworthy cases. Viriditas (talk) 01:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: You're making progress. You've removed just under 10% of the quotes so far. Good job; keep at it! Viriditas (talk) 20:42, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: I started working on this. Let me know if my edits worked on summarizing quotes. Want to make sure I'm making progress. Remember (talk) 20:20, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Sounds good. I will try my best. If it works out, great. If not, such is life. Remember (talk) 14:03, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: In the past, timing wasn't as much of an issue, but within the last few months, it has become one, so the sooner you can paraphrase a few quotes here and there, the faster I can tick it off. You should not wait very long. In fact, if you were, let's say, to paraphrase two quotes a day for the next few days, I think that would help. Viriditas (talk) 08:57, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you so much for this detailed review! I'm happy to try to make all the improvements noted and I do see other things that could be improved with the article as well. One thing I do have a question about and that is timing. I'm pretty busy in real life and so I don't know if there is a specific deadline for achieving compliance with DYK requirements on this issue. Please let me know and I will try my best to meet the internal deadlines. Thanks again for your help in reviewing the article! I really appreciate your hard work! Remember (talk) 13:17, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! Please let me know what else I should do since I think you may have fixed it all. Remember (talk) 01:34, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- I made temporary fixes to some of the issues. Viriditas (talk) 01:20, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: I wasn't aware of that. I will try and find the discussion. I'm doing a read through now as a prelude to a full review. The lead is exceptionally long and detailed, and while I'm sympathetic and partial to that style myself, I know that others will object to it. I can already see several ways to shorten it; perhaps you should forestall any such objections by attempting to shorten it yourself. Viriditas (talk) 23:15, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Funny. This was an issue debated on the talk page and I lost because people wanted less full quotes. So I have revised and summarized. Let me know anything else that needs to be done. Remember (talk) 14:10, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
@Viriditas: Check out the page now and see if that solves a lot of the summarization problem. Remember (talk) 02:26, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: I just did a quick copyedit on the lead, but the rest of the article needs a read through which I can't do until tomorrow. You've cut down on 10-20% of the quotes, which is great, and the infobox looks good. I would say we are getting to the end of the review here. One thing, check the "Reactions" section. It's a bit long in the tooth and could probably be split into subsections. Viriditas (talk) 10:41, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you for the quick turnaround! No need to rush on my account. I'm happy for you to get to it whenever. Mainly just want to be sure I am headed in the right direction. Will work on the Reactions section. Remember (talk) 11:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:Made some more changes. Let me know what else I need to work on. Remember (talk) 13:50, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: Doing a final read-through now. You'll need to add redundant citations to any hanging sentence or paragraph that lacks them. I see a few in the article and I've mentioned it below. Other than that, I think we are done after my read through, but keep in mind, it is expected that you will encounter a lot of resistance elsewhere, so dot your i's and cross your t's because people will come out of the woodwork on this one, you can guarantee it. Viriditas (talk) 21:48, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:Sounds good. I’ll make those remaining changes. I’ll just give it my best shot.Remember (talk) 22:59, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: This criticism goes a bit beyond DYK, so take it for what it's worth: when I was doing my read-through yesterday, two things stood out. 1) Heavy use of WP:PROSELINE instead of a natural story narrative, discussing how the targeting arose (presumably predates the second admin in some way) and if there are major precedents that informed it (Nixon admin?) The proseline problem is generally common due to breaking news and continuing developments, so it's not that big of a deal right now, but as an article matures, it's recommended to replace proseline with logical narrative that creates a story. Unfortunately, we don't have any additional essays or guidelines on this except for the original essay, so perhaps give that a read. Viriditas (talk) 23:10, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:Agreed. I think with time there will be more materials that put this all in context better and we will have a fuller understanding of the fallout from this. Hopefully it will move to a more well written article then. Remember (talk) 23:21, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: Once you add the missing citations (or remove the unsourced text), I will consider passing. Consider also fixing the grammar of ALT0, ALT1 and ALT2 with copyedits up above ("... that Paul Weiss committed to $40 million of pro bono legal services in support of the Trump administration's goals to settle executive action against the firm?"; "... that due to the Trump administration's settlements with law firms, $940 million of pro bono work was pledged to support causes that President Trump supports?"; "...that over 500 law firms have signed an amicus brief opposing the Trump administration's executive action against law firms?") Viriditas (talk) 23:48, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:Agreed. I think with time there will be more materials that put this all in context better and we will have a fuller understanding of the fallout from this. Hopefully it will move to a more well written article then. Remember (talk) 23:21, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: This criticism goes a bit beyond DYK, so take it for what it's worth: when I was doing my read-through yesterday, two things stood out. 1) Heavy use of WP:PROSELINE instead of a natural story narrative, discussing how the targeting arose (presumably predates the second admin in some way) and if there are major precedents that informed it (Nixon admin?) The proseline problem is generally common due to breaking news and continuing developments, so it's not that big of a deal right now, but as an article matures, it's recommended to replace proseline with logical narrative that creates a story. Unfortunately, we don't have any additional essays or guidelines on this except for the original essay, so perhaps give that a read. Viriditas (talk) 23:10, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:Sounds good. I’ll make those remaining changes. I’ll just give it my best shot.Remember (talk) 22:59, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remember: Doing a final read-through now. You'll need to add redundant citations to any hanging sentence or paragraph that lacks them. I see a few in the article and I've mentioned it below. Other than that, I think we are done after my read through, but keep in mind, it is expected that you will encounter a lot of resistance elsewhere, so dot your i's and cross your t's because people will come out of the woodwork on this one, you can guarantee it. Viriditas (talk) 21:48, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:Made some more changes. Let me know what else I need to work on. Remember (talk) 13:50, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you for the quick turnaround! No need to rush on my account. I'm happy for you to get to it whenever. Mainly just want to be sure I am headed in the right direction. Will work on the Reactions section. Remember (talk) 11:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Article is new and long enough, although approximately more or less of 1/5 of its original prose began at Second presidency of Donald Trump[20] and was used to start this new article at 15:41, 29 March 2025,[21] making it eligible as a fivefold expansion. Article is sourced except for the introductory sentence in the "Actions by the Trump administration" which is a summary of the material that follows. It would be nice to double up the sourcing here for the sake of convention, but the sentence is clearly sourced by what follows. That sentence also writes "Executive Orders" in uppercase, unlike much of the rest of the article. There are little inconsistencies like this here and there. Is the article neutral? That's a tough question to answer. From my POV, I believe the entire article is neutral, but I ran into issues evaluating this problem in the "Reactions" section. To help clear this up, I commented out the material cited to anonymous sources in The Hill and left a message on the talk page. I also grouped the Trump POV together and left it at the bottom, giving the administration the final word (in their own words), which was the style before I edited it. At this point, there are three outstanding issues that I see, two of which may need to be addressed 1) Stability, as the article looks like it is changing day by day. With that said, I believe it meets the bare requirements of WP:DYKCOMPLETE, as there doesn't appear to be any edit warring, and most of the incremental changes involve new additions, mostly reactions and minor developments in terms of pushback, etc. 2) The lead section is somewhat detailed and list-y. I don't believe it needs to be, but the primary author is happy with this style so I'm not going to change it. I do think the lead can be more dense and summarized, but ultimately that's just my opinion. 3) Excessive quotations. This is a tough one. I've mentioned it up above in the comments. The good news is that the author has discussed this problem on the talk page with others and has recently made necessary changes. But I'm not certain the subject needs as many quotes as it currently does, and I would prefer to see a more encyclopedic approach and style that both avoids WP:PROSELINE and makes a significant effort to summarize and paraphrase the quoted material. I suspect that at least half of the current quotes can be eliminated, but I also acknowledge that many of them are important. This is partly a stylistic problem and partly a failure to fit the material into a solid and long-lasting narrative that withstands the days, weeks, and months ahead. I'm sure that will come with time. Finally, the hooks: ALT0 is too long and too controversial; ALT1 needs copyediting; and ALT2 is almost perfect, but I wonder about the use of "in" here and whether it also needs a "the". I would go with ALT2 (with minor changes) but that's just my personal preference. I would like to see slightly more cleanup on the grammar, prose, and excessive quotes before I tick things off. Viriditas (talk) 01:50, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
Carl Vincenti
... that around 1900, a young Maasai man (pictured) looked straight at Carl Vincenti's camera?
ALT1: ... that Carl Vincenti photographed a colonial classroom in German East Africa?Source: A photograph from a government school in 1903 depicts a German teacher and local pupils in a classroomALT2: ... that Carl Vincenti helped photographing dinosaur bones?Source: Vennen, Mareike (2018), "Arbeitsbilder – Bilderarbeit. Die Herstellung und Zirkulation von Fotografien der Tendaguru-Expedition [Working pictures - picture work. The production and circulation of photographs from the Tendaguru expedition]", in Heumann, Ina; Stoecker, Holger; Tamborini, Marco; Vennen, Mareike (eds.), Dinosaurierfragmente: Zur Geschichte der Tendaguru-Expedition und ihrer Objekte, 1906-2018 (in German), Wallstein Verlag, p. 57- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sanahin Bridge
Munfarid1 (talk) 22:38, 29 March 2025 (UTC).
Interesting life and work, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I prefer the original, as closely connected to the image which is licensed and gives a good idea of what he did. I suggest to add a year, to place it in time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Gerda Arendt:, I added the year 1900 to the first hook, as you suggested. Munfarid1 (talk) 16:45, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
@Munfarid1: Pulled from queue per WT:DYK#Queue 2 (4 May 00:00). There are sourcing issues that need to be addressed before this can be repromoted. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:22, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5Just added the source for the selected hook below. Hopefully this nom is now RTG.Munfarid1 (talk) 07:17, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Munfarid1: Forgot my signature. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:22, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- This also needs to be noted: the originally promoted hook was rejected after promotion per another WT:DYK discussion. It is now supposed to run with the following hook:
- ... that Carl Vincenti's posing of indigenous people in studio portraits (example pictured) contributed to the stereotyping of Africa and Africans?
- This also needs to be noted: the originally promoted hook was rejected after promotion per another WT:DYK discussion. It is now supposed to run with the following hook:
- Source: A study of racial stereotyping with reference to the territory of the modern state of Rwanda ... discussed a picture postcard published by Vincenti as an example. [1] ]
- Per the consensus at the WT:DYK discussion, the old options have been struck and this will be the hook that will run once the issues are resolved. For what it's worth, I saw no issues with the original hook, but the consensus was to move away from it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:25, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Munfarid1: Have the issues been resolved? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:24, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5:- Yes, I added a clear source to the "issue" that another user referred to more than a week ago, asking them, if this has resolved this issue. Since they have not replied, I think this nomination is ready to go. - Thanks for your assistance in promoting this DYK, that already had been cleared by more than one reviewer before. Munfarid1 (talk) 11:31, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Amakuru and RoySmith: Pinging for input if the issues have been addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:27, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm going to leave this for somebody else. RoySmith (talk) 22:39, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Amakuru and RoySmith: Pinging for input if the issues have been addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:27, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5:- Yes, I added a clear source to the "issue" that another user referred to more than a week ago, asking them, if this has resolved this issue. Since they have not replied, I think this nomination is ready to go. - Thanks for your assistance in promoting this DYK, that already had been cleared by more than one reviewer before. Munfarid1 (talk) 11:31, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Munfarid1: Have the issues been resolved? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:24, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Per the consensus at the WT:DYK discussion, the old options have been struck and this will be the hook that will run once the issues are resolved. For what it's worth, I saw no issues with the original hook, but the consensus was to move away from it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:25, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 30
[edit]St Peter's Cathedral, Likoma
- ... that when the 3,400 m² St Peter's Cathedral was built on tiny 18 km² Likoma Island, it was believed to be the largest building in Central Africa?
- Source: "It is about four and one half miles long and two and one half miles wide. Likoma and neighboring Chizumulu, seven miles farther west, are the only significant islands in Lake Malawi" (page 85)... "Together with its chapel, library, chapter house and cloisters, the building's area exceeded some 37,000 square feet" (page 93)... "Even in the 1920s, the cathedral was believed to be 'the single largest building in Central Africa' (Dale 1925, 195)". (pages 93-94) From The Steamer Parish, by Charles Good: https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Steamer_Parish/8y8XSs9xIEIC
- ALT1 ... that when St Peter's Cathedral was built on tiny Likoma Island, it was believed to be the largest building in Central Africa?
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Overall: Article meets expansion and length criteria. All sources are fine, a few more wouldn't hurt though. Earwig picks up one paragraph that needs a bit more rephrasing, but it does pass, please do rephrase this one section. I fixed a small grammar issue with the hook. The historical image is nice. Please expand a bit more if you're able to make completely sure it passes the expansion requirement, its very close to the limit. John Cummings (talk) 09:41, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Dclemens1971 and John Cummings: The current hook is 195 characters long and thus very close to the 200-character limit. Can hook be trimmed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:29, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- @John Cummings and Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the review! I tried to trim slightly but the wiki markup for superscript still takes up characters. This is two characters shorter: "that when the 3,400 m2 St Peter's Cathedral was built on tiny Likoma Island, just 18 km2 in Lake Malawi, it was believed to be the largest building in Central Africa?" I also looked at the Copvio Detector and everything it flagged was inside of three short quotations and thus should be in compliance with MOS:QUOT, but let me know if there was something specific you saw that wasn't in quotation marks. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:44, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- That is still far too long. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:49, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: The interestingness of the hook, to me, is in emphasizing the mismatch between the large size of the building and the small size of the island. Obviously we could trim the hook by eliminating the references to the sizes of the island and building, but I do think it loses a bit of the punch. The alternative would be
... that when St Peter's Cathedral was built on tiny Likoma Island in Lake Malawi, it was believed to be the largest building in Central Africa?
, which is 140 characters. I will leave to you and @John Cummings: to decide if that is superior to the version that includes size figures. Whatever you decide is fine with me! Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:56, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: The interestingness of the hook, to me, is in emphasizing the mismatch between the large size of the building and the small size of the island. Obviously we could trim the hook by eliminating the references to the sizes of the island and building, but I do think it loses a bit of the punch. The alternative would be
- That is still far too long. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:49, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- @John Cummings and Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the review! I tried to trim slightly but the wiki markup for superscript still takes up characters. This is two characters shorter: "that when the 3,400 m2 St Peter's Cathedral was built on tiny Likoma Island, just 18 km2 in Lake Malawi, it was believed to be the largest building in Central Africa?" I also looked at the Copvio Detector and everything it flagged was inside of three short quotations and thus should be in compliance with MOS:QUOT, but let me know if there was something specific you saw that wasn't in quotation marks. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:44, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Dclemens1971 and John Cummings: The current hook is 195 characters long and thus very close to the 200-character limit. Can hook be trimmed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:29, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
Hi Dclemens1971 sorry I missed this, what do you think about... that when the 3,400m² St Peter's Cathedral was built on the tiny, 18km² Likoma Island, it was believed to be the largest building in Central Africa? (please excuse the lack of formatting). Also Narutolovehinata5 is it ok to use these abreviations for square meters at km in DYK? John Cummings (talk)
- John Cummings OK by me! Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:36, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Dclemens1971 great, can you add it as the hook and ping me when done? John Cummings (talk) 20:48, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- John Cummings Done! Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks very much Dclemens1971, Narutolovehinata5 I believe we are done? Is there anything else I need to press to approve this? John Cummings (talk) 09:34, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I actually think leaving out the figures would be better since they make the hook shorter and less distracting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:35, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Narutolovehinata5 sorry to not be clear, I meant is there anything else I need to technically do to approve the nomination? John Cummings (talk) 09:42, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not the reviewer, you are, so if everything looks good on your end and you've checked all of the DYK criteria, the work is that. Having said that, I'd advise going with only the shorter version and not the one with figures for reasons I said above. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:26, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Narutolovehinata5 sorry to not be clear, I meant is there anything else I need to technically do to approve the nomination? John Cummings (talk) 09:42, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I actually think leaving out the figures would be better since they make the hook shorter and less distracting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:35, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks very much Dclemens1971, Narutolovehinata5 I believe we are done? Is there anything else I need to press to approve this? John Cummings (talk) 09:34, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- John Cummings Done! Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Dclemens1971 great, can you add it as the hook and ping me when done? John Cummings (talk) 20:48, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your help Narutolovehinata5, I really appreciate it. Honestly I don't have a strong opinion on including the numbers and they don't use up a lot of characters, Dclemens1971 what is your preference? John Cummings (talk) 11:22, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- John Cummings I'm fine either way. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:44, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
OK, lets just go with the units included, it only adds a few characters and the size of the building is impressive :) John Cummings (talk) 17:47, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Or we could just leave it to the promoter. From what I recall, it's actually rather uncommon for building hooks to include the figures unless the figures themselves were essential to the hook fact (and this arguably isn't). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:42, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- OK, works for me :) John Cummings (talk) 18:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
Dclemens1971 This was pulled from the queue per Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors#Errors in "Did you know ..." under Next-but-one DYK. SL93 (talk) 15:03, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- I mean, "believed to be" doesn't meet the definition of WP:WEASEL here since that's the exact line from the source supplied above:
"Even in the 1920s, the cathedral was believed to be 'the single largest building in Central Africa' (Dale 1925, 195)".
Is there no way to save this? @Amakuru: @RoySmith: There was a shorter ALT hook offered that did not refer to the numbers:...that when St Peter's Cathedral was built on tiny Likoma Island in Lake Malawi, it was believed to be the largest building in Central Africa?
Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:12, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- I mean, "believed to be" doesn't meet the definition of WP:WEASEL here since that's the exact line from the source supplied above:
- OK, works for me :) John Cummings (talk) 18:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'd definitely go with the shorter version (Dclemens1971: it is convention at DYK to set off all suggested alternates in the "* ALTx:" style to make them easier to see and give them unique names to refer to later). As for the "East Africa" vs "Central Africa" part, I'm not too worried about that. It's a direct quote from the source, and we generally follow the source's lead. For all we know, in the 1920's, the terms "East Africa" and "Central Africa" may have had different definitions, or maybe no exact definitions at all. RoySmith (talk) 15:28, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's not at all obvious from what's written who "believed" it to be the largest. At the very least, per WP:INTEXT, this needs an attribution. — Amakuru (talk) 16:36, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
Más Notícias
- ... that an 1895 painting (pictured), depicting a woman clutching a crumpled letter, was described by a critic as "a list of disasters"?
Cattos💭 15:10, 30 March 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: Great job with the article! I am not usually a painting connoisseur, but I enjoyed reading this one. Definitely think the hook is interesting. It might be even better without the appositive to get to the interesting part as fast as possible (e.g.
... that a 1895 painting (pictured) was described by a critic as "a list of disasters"?
), but that is up to you! I was unable to do many plagiarism spot-checks, as I don't speak Portuguese, so I am certifying a lack of plagiarism on AGF. But otherwise, looking great, and a big thank you for your translation work! We always need more translators :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:20, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your positive review, @HouseBlaster:! You might've missed it, but it is cited in the article, no? It appears in the "Reception and legacy" section, before that one quote. Although I approve your suggested minor adjustment above. Cattos💭 02:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Cathodography: Is ref 33, Moraes 1895, p. 1, the reference? The block quote doesn't contain the text "a list of disasters". Per Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines#Articles,
The hook fact should be cited in the article, no later than the end of the sentence it appears in.
Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:55, 5 April 2025 (UTC)- @HouseBlaster: Yes, Moraes 1895, p. 1 is the reference. I did not notice that you were refering to that guideline. Do you think it is satisfactory now? Cattos💭 03:06, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Awesome work!
for ALT0. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:16, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Shouldn't the article before 1895 be "an"? When you spell it out, it would be "an eighteen ninety-five painting"; therefore, "an". Cielquiparle (talk) 19:53, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yes; thanks for catching that. I have silently corrected the typo in the approved hook; no need to be bureaucratic about it. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:00, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Shouldn't the article before 1895 be "an"? When you spell it out, it would be "an eighteen ninety-five painting"; therefore, "an". Cielquiparle (talk) 19:53, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Awesome work!
- @HouseBlaster: Yes, Moraes 1895, p. 1 is the reference. I did not notice that you were refering to that guideline. Do you think it is satisfactory now? Cattos💭 03:06, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Cathodography: Is ref 33, Moraes 1895, p. 1, the reference? The block quote doesn't contain the text "a list of disasters". Per Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines#Articles,
@Cathodography, HouseBlaster, RoySmith, and Ganesha811: I've pulled this hook due to the hook seemingly being directly at odds with the article. I would've normally just fixed it, but I'm not sure the fix would've been that interesting, so I'll leave it up to y'all to decide the best way to go forward from here. It was only on the MP for six hours, so I'm fine giving it another run :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:23, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ugh. Looks like the wording in the article was changed after it was approved, changing the meaning significantly. Was this just a bad translation? RoySmith (talk) 09:42, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- User:Cathodography it looks like you handled the translation. Was this an automated machine translation, or did you translate it yourself? RoySmith (talk) 11:34, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: I normally don't use machine translations, but since this is an article about a painting, I used an automated machine translator in some parts of the Portuguese article, but still managed to translate the rest of the article myself. I am sorry for the accidental mistranslation that I have done. If still acceptable, the hook should be ALT0A: ... that an 1895 painting (pictured) stood out to a critic who described the artist's previous works as a "list of disasters"? Cattos💭 21:38, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- User:Cathodography it looks like you handled the translation. Was this an automated machine translation, or did you translate it yourself? RoySmith (talk) 11:34, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ugh. Looks like the wording in the article was changed after it was approved, changing the meaning significantly. Was this just a bad translation? RoySmith (talk) 09:42, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
Pholidoteuthis adami
- ... that the male pink scaled squid (Pholidoteuthis adami) mates upside down, and mates for longer than other species of squid?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Would be better if here was an image of the behavior, but the licensing is hard to find (citation has a NOAA image, but paper isn't open access)
Anthropophoca (talk) 11:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC).
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- Adequate sourcing:
- You should address the "[verification needed]" and "[additional citation(s) needed]" templates per WP:DYKCITE. If you think these tags were a mistake, you may justify their removal.
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
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- Other problems:
- The hook should specify how much "longer" the pink scaled squid mates in comparison to other species of squid. As quoted in WP:DYKINT:
The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: @Anthropophoca: New enough (created March 30), article is long enough, NPOV, hook is cited to a RS and QPQ is not needed. Earwig shows a "violation unlikely" result with 7.4% similarity. However, there are a couple of issues that need to be addressed before it can meet the standards for DYK. The article includes a few claims that require additional sourcing, particularly the details about the prolonged mating behavior of the male squid and its comparison to other species. To meet WP:DYKCITE, the article should address the "[verification needed]" and "[additional citation(s) needed]" templates and ensure that all facts are properly referenced.
While the hook mentions that mating is prolonged, it could be clarified further ("mates for longer than other species of squid" is vague—how much longer?). Specifying how much longer this mating process lasts compared to other squid species would help eliminate any ambiguity and strengthen the hook. Additionally, the subject of the hook, "pink scaled squid", should be boldlinked to the article Pholidoteuthis adami for consistency with DYK guidelines. For example, may I suggest an alternative hook for ALT0A: "... that the male pink scaled squid mates upside down and holds the female for a prolonged period, much longer than other squid species?". Cattos💭 15:05, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Cathodography: Is it not ok if the hook is vague, but the details are further explained in the article? The original source had this to say on the matter "During in situ observations with the ROVs, both pairs were encountered very close to the bottom but not resting on it. The bright lights of the ROV did not seem to disturb the mating pairs at all. The first pair was recorded for 18 s; the second for 1 min and 50 s", which to me sounds like they did not record the mating process in its entirety.
- The comparison with other squid species is made here: "Because spermatangia have been found implanted seemingly nonselectively at various locations on some mated female deep-sea squid, mating is thought to happen quickly (1, 1). In P. adami, however, mating is not swift. The P. adami male was seemingly holding the female very firmly, and mating was prolonged. The opening of the terminal organ of the museum specimen is narrow and suggests that only one spermatophore is released at a time....The successful implantation of 15–20 spermatangia probably takes some time." The other squid species in question is Octopoteuthis deletron, whose page is explicitly linked in the relevant segment of the DYK candidate, and the page on O. deletron also mentions the mating behavior.
- Hence, I do not think that the hook needs to explain the phenomena in its entirety, though I'm always open to differences in wording, and perhaps i should explain exactly how many spermatangia were implanted in the museum specimen. I will track down the additional citation needed, though i suspect that the second citation on that page already gives enough information. Cheers, Anthropophoca (talk) 15:51, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- I believe I've addressed the issue, though as stated in the hidden comments, I believe the article could use the recordings of the mating process, which should be in the Public Domain (Sourced from NOAA), but I couldn't verify the copyright at this time. Help to upload and verify this video would be greatly appreciated.Anthropophoca (talk) 16:29, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
You're right. Sorry for wasting your time. I believe that the nomination is good to go now. Cattos💭 16:43, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
@Anthropophoca and Cathodography: I don't see how the cited sources verify "longer than other species of squid". Since they are talking about how difficult it is to observe squids mating, this makes it sound like it would be hard to have a frame of reference for their mating behaviors in general. Rjjiii (talk) 00:39, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: The hook is a bit vague, I'll admit, but the "other squid species" being referred to is Octopoteuthis deletron, which you might recognize as the bisexual driveby-mating squid. You're right that i would need to add references to other species, and i'll add a passage referring to the hectocotylus of other squid shortly.Anthropophoca (talk) 00:53, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 2
[edit]Big Four (cycling)
- ... that journalists have described cycling's Big Four riders as having a "lockdown" on winning the sport's biggest races?
- Source: https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-racing/breaking-the-big-4-can-any-other-rider-win-a-2025-grand-tour/ ("If you’re getting tired of the “Big 4” lockdown on cycling’s grand tours, don’t get your hopes up for a reprieve in 2025.")
- ALT1: ...
that three of cycling's Big Four, who dominated major stage races in the 2020s, debuted at the top level in 2019?Source: Source for Big Four dominance in stage races: https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-racing/breaking-the-big-4-can-any-other-rider-win-a-2025-grand-tour/ Sources for three members (Pogačar, Vingegaard, Evenepoel) debuting at WorldTour level in 2019: https://web.archive.org/web/20250307190503/https://www.cyclingnews.com/riders/tadej-pogacar/ - https://web.archive.org/web/20250114135044/https://www.cyclingnews.com/riders/jonas-vingegaard/ - https://web.archive.org/web/20250208001101/https://www.cyclingnews.com/riders/remco-evenepoel/ - Reviewed:
- Comment: my first DYK nomination, please let me know if there's anything I need to fix!
Verylongandmemorable (talk) 18:34, 3 April 2025 (UTC).
- If a cyclist represents his country at these races, is there a reason why the nationality of each rider is omitted in this article? Flibirigit (talk) 02:57, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Cyclists ride in professional teams (not national teams) for Grand Tours and the stage races focused on in the article. For example, Tadej Pogačar rides for UAE Team Emirates XRG. That being said, adding their nationality to the members section is probably a good idea. Verylongandmemorable (talk) 05:31, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- I've added some more basic biographical information on each cyclist, including their nationality Verylongandmemorable (talk) 16:47, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
Great. Placing a red icon here to indicate that a full review is still needed. Flibirigit (talk) 22:19, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
Reviewing... it's been two weeks without comment, so I will do the review myself. Flibirigit (talk) 22:42, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: The article was moved to the main space on April 2, and nominated within one day for DYK. Length is adequate. There is one citation needed tag in the "Origin" section for a direct quote. The prose in the "Career statistics" section has no citations. Also, please clarify the source(s) for the results in the "General classification" and "Major championships" sections. The article is neutral in tone, and I found no plagiarism concerns. ALT0 is an interesting hook. It is mentioned and cited in the article and verified by the source. ALT1 is a bit confusing, since it is not clear with is "the top level", and I cannot find where it is mentioned or cited in the article. All of the images used in the article are in the public domain on the Commons. QPQ is not required. Overall, this is a good attempt for the first DYK nomination. Some attention to sourcing is necessary. I look forward to seeing this on the main page. Flibirigit (talk) 23:04, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review! I believe I've fixed the two citation issues: the first was just my mistake in using quotes, I was trying to highlight that I was referring to the term Big Four, so I've replaced with italics, per my understanding of MOS:ITAL and WP:WORDISSUBJECT. For the "Career statistics" section, I've added references to the prose for the overall summary statistics, and references to a reputable cycling database (procyclingstats) for all four rider's results. For ALT1, by "top level" I was referring to the UCI WorldTour, which is the top level of men's cycling. I worried that using "UCI WorldTour" in the hook wouldn't be meaningful to a non-cycling audience, but it is the most explicit/verifiable phrasing. Please let me know if there's anything else to fix! Verylongandmemorable (talk) 00:53, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
The source of the first sentence in the "Origin" section is still unclear. The only citation in that paragraph mentions the term Big Four, but it does not specifically state "began appearing in cycling media in 2024", nor does it state "particularly in the lead up to the 2024 Tour de France". If such a specific source cannot be found, I suggest rewording the sentence. It would also be beneficial to have more than one reliable source describing the Big Four, as opposed to just one article at this time. ALT1 still cannot be verified since there is no corresponding mention of "top level" in the prose. Without such mention, the hook will be rejected. The citations for the charts are helpful, but one paragraph in the "Career statistics" section has no clear source. Flibirigit (talk) 01:15, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Here are some suggested sources [22][23][24] which also mention the term Big Four, for adding into the "Origin" section. It is best to have mutliple reliable sources to define the term, which is the key point of this article. Flibirigit (talk) 01:42, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the source suggestions! I've re-written the Origin paragraph to be more neutral and have more references for early uses of the term. On your suggestion, I also added a note to the lead of the article, which has multiple independent sources both analyzing the term and showing widespread use in coverage of cycling. I will address the sourcing in "Career statistics" section tomorrow. I understand that ALT1 is not verifiable in its current form, that's my fault for bad phrasing. It seems like you are happy with the first hook though? If not, I can try to come up with more alternatives. Verylongandmemorable (talk) 06:28, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- The changes look promising. Will review in more detail tomorrow. I have struck ALT1, but remain open to new hooks and ALT0. Flibirigit (talk) 14:07, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, have you gotten a chance to review? I've added sources to the "Career statistics" section, supporting the Olympic/world championships paragraph. Verylongandmemorable (talk) 16:16, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Not yet. Will do tonight or tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 18:18, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
This nomination is placed on hold, pending the outcome of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Big Four (cycling). I suggest focusing on getting more reliable sources to support the origin and notability of the term Big Four. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 22:49, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Not yet. Will do tonight or tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 18:18, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, have you gotten a chance to review? I've added sources to the "Career statistics" section, supporting the Olympic/world championships paragraph. Verylongandmemorable (talk) 16:16, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- The changes look promising. Will review in more detail tomorrow. I have struck ALT1, but remain open to new hooks and ALT0. Flibirigit (talk) 14:07, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the source suggestions! I've re-written the Origin paragraph to be more neutral and have more references for early uses of the term. On your suggestion, I also added a note to the lead of the article, which has multiple independent sources both analyzing the term and showing widespread use in coverage of cycling. I will address the sourcing in "Career statistics" section tomorrow. I understand that ALT1 is not verifiable in its current form, that's my fault for bad phrasing. It seems like you are happy with the first hook though? If not, I can try to come up with more alternatives. Verylongandmemorable (talk) 06:28, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Here are some suggested sources [22][23][24] which also mention the term Big Four, for adding into the "Origin" section. It is best to have mutliple reliable sources to define the term, which is the key point of this article. Flibirigit (talk) 01:42, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
Annis Lee Wister
- ... that Annis Lee Wister was the most well-known translator of German popular novels into English in the United States during the late 19th-century?
- Source: She was the most well known translator of German popular fiction in the United States at the time (source: Tatlock page 216)
- ALT1: ... that Annis Lee Wister translated into English all ten of the novels of E. Marlitt and an additional 32 German popular novels mostly written by women? Source: She translated all ten of the novels of E. Marlitt and an additional 32 popular German novels mostly written by women. (source: Tatlock pages 216 and 220)
- ALT2: ... that as a child, Annis Lee Wister translated Struwwelpeter from German to English? Source: As a child, she translated Struwwelpeter from German. (Source Tatlock page 218)
- Reviewed: Laurie Schipper
Dwkaminski (talk) 18:48, 2 April 2025 (UTC).
- Question not review @Dwkaminski: how do you calculate 5x expansion? I get 2,347 characters now, but 725 characters before you started work, so you want 3,625. See Wikipedia:Did you know/DYKcheck. Perhaps "With Frederic Henry Hedge, she published Metrical Translations and Poems (1888)." and "Among her translations are:" could be excluded, reducing the starting point to 617 and the target to 3,085. TSventon (talk) 19:29, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I followed the guidance on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/DYKcheck.
Counting prose characters without DYKcheck You'll probably make a mistake trying to count this way, but you'll be close. Use a free website, or an external software program that has a character-counting feature. For example, if you are using Microsoft Word, select the text from the article page (or, in the case of "Did you know" nominations, the DYK talk page) – not the edit page containing Wikitext – then copy and paste it into a blank document. Delete everything DYKcheck doesn't count: infoboxes, categories, references, lists, tables, block quotes, headers, images and captions, the "See also" section if any, Table of Contents, edit buttons, "Citation needed" and similar superscripted text, and reference link numbers like [6]. Click "Tools" ("Review" in Office 2007), then "Word Count", and note the "Characters (with spaces)" figure. I used the word count though and not character. Give it quick fail. Dwkaminski (talk) 20:02, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
sorry about that, I have tried manual calculations and prefer the tool, even if it can sometimes be fooled by poor formatting. TSventon (talk) 20:25, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
I'm sure @Dwkaminski: could be given a little longer to get this to 3625.--Launchballer 03:18, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- I made additional edits and the article now meets the 5x increase requirement. Thanks! Dwkaminski (talk) 14:57, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
In terms of which hook works, I like ALT2 because a hover over the Struwwelpeter link brings up a very recognizable image. EEHalli (talk) 13:55, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 3
[edit]Rule of inference
- ... that using classical rules of inference, logicians can prove from any contradiction that the Earth is flat?
- Source: Shapiro, Stewart; Kouri Kissel, Teresa (2024). "Classical Logic". The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Metaphysics Research Lab, Stanford University. § 3. Deduction.
- ALT1: ... that rules of inference can be transformed into tautologies? Source:
- Gossett, Eric (2009). Discrete Mathematics with Proof. John Wiley & Sons. pp. 50–51. ISBN 978-0-470-45793-1.
- Carlson, Robert (2017). A Concrete Introduction to Real Analysis. CRC Press. p. 20. ISBN 978-1-4987-7815-2.
- Hintikka, Jaakko; Sandu, Gabriel (2006). "What Is Logic?". In Jacquette, Dale (ed.). Philosophy of Logic. North Holland. p. 16. ISBN 978-0-444-51541-4.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eleanor Island (Canada)
Phlsph7 (talk) 09:14, 4 April 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: @Phlsph7: The hook facts have to both be 1) cited in the source, and 2) cited in the Wikipedia article. Viriditas (talk) 00:13, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hello Viriditas and thanks for taking a look at this nomination. For ALT0, the relevant passage in the article is "Classical logic prohibits contradictions because classical rules of inference lead to the principle of explosion, an admissible rule of inference that makes it possible to infer from the premises and . Since is unrelated to , any arbitrary statement can be deduced from a contradiction". I chose the arbitrary statement "the Earth is flat" to make it more concrete, but any other statement would also work. For ALT1, the relevant passage in the article is "Every argument following a rule of inference can be transformed into a tautology". Both passages are supported by reliable sources. I could look up the sources to provide quotes if there are concrete doubts. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:26, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Review needed. Viriditas (talk) 23:42, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hello Viriditas and thanks for taking a look at this nomination. For ALT0, the relevant passage in the article is "Classical logic prohibits contradictions because classical rules of inference lead to the principle of explosion, an admissible rule of inference that makes it possible to infer from the premises and . Since is unrelated to , any arbitrary statement can be deduced from a contradiction". I chose the arbitrary statement "the Earth is flat" to make it more concrete, but any other statement would also work. For ALT1, the relevant passage in the article is "Every argument following a rule of inference can be transformed into a tautology". Both passages are supported by reliable sources. I could look up the sources to provide quotes if there are concrete doubts. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:26, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 4
[edit]Articles created/expanded on April 6
[edit]África Brasil
- ... that África Brasil was recorded with two drummers, two bassists, and many musicians that the producer had to take a crash program in the United States to learn how to record it?
- Source: https://revistacontinente.com.br/secoes/resenha/africa-brasil-1 "O produtor afirmou que ninguém queria encarar a missão de gravar um disco com duas baterias, dois contrabaixos e mais um monte de músicos. Mazzola foi, então, fazer um curso de especialização nos Estados Unidos e pediu para Jorge esperar sua volta ao Brasil e a importação de uma mesa de 16 canais. Acabou cumprindo, também, o papel de técnico de som, pois o profissional designado não conseguia dar conta do novo equipamento."
Cattos💭 00:57, 9 April 2025 (UTC).
Article expanded 5x within a week of nomination. QPQ good. Article is well-written and well-sourced, hook is interesting. Two things with the hook, though: it seems as if the hook should say "so many musicians", and the source and article seem to indicate "specialized course" rather than a crash course, as linked.~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 03:24, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Darth Stabro: Thanks for the review and sorry for the late response. I prefer not to use "so many musicians", since the emphasis is more on the unusual configuration (two drummers, two bassists, and others) than on quantity. Though I agree that "specialized course" could more match the source, I was wondering if it might be a little unclear to general readers. Would "recording course" or "technical course" work better for clarity while still staying true to the source? Cattos💭 19:20, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Butting in to agree with Darth Stabro here; as written the grammar is off. If you want to keep away from the "so many" phrasing, you'll need to revise it. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:53, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Darth Stabro: Thanks for the review and sorry for the late response. I prefer not to use "so many musicians", since the emphasis is more on the unusual configuration (two drummers, two bassists, and others) than on quantity. Though I agree that "specialized course" could more match the source, I was wondering if it might be a little unclear to general readers. Would "recording course" or "technical course" work better for clarity while still staying true to the source? Cattos💭 19:20, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
My suggested grammatical improvement: "that as África Brasil was recorded with two drummers, two bassists, and many musicians the producer had to take a crash program in the United States to learn how to record it?" (taking out that)User:D Kirlston - talk 00:07, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
Cave Johnson Couts
- ... that 19th-century Californian pioneer Cave Johnson Couts was acquitted thrice of attacking and murdering Indians, mourners at a funeral, and a former Mexican revolutionary, respectively?
- Source: Cave Couts [...] was also a man with a violent temper [...] whipping two Indians [...] one of whom died [...] with an order to stop the funeral; when the party refused they fired into the crowd. One man died [...] he shot and killed Juan Mendoza, former majordomo at Rancho Guajome and a Mexican revolutionary. Mendoza [...] Couts secured a third acquittal. —-[25]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ich komme
- Comment: Alt hooks or ways to spice up my hook welcome. Could be extra interesting due to the existence of Cave Johnson (Portal) in the pop culture consciousness.
Aaron Liu (talk) 03:46, 7 April 2025 (UTC).
- How about something a bit more specific and tighter: that 19th-century Californian pioneer Cave Johnson Couts whipped a man to death, and was acquitted because one member of his jury was not a citizen? DS (talk) 15:28, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- That seems far more mundane than the situation actually was as it omits that the whipped was also not a citizen. Aaron Liu (talk) 16:40, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- How about: that Cave Johnson Couts, who helped shape early San Diego agriculture, was also tried and acquitted for killing a Native laborer, firing on funeral mourners, and shooting a former revolutionary?
- … that Cave Johnson Couts, a respected Californian judge and rancher, was thrice acquitted of killing men—including one at a funeral—despite overseeing forced Indigenous labor and corporal punishment on his estate?
- … Cave Johnson Couts, a West Point–trained officer turned California judge, was acquitted of three killings—including one at a funeral—despite his record of violence and autocratic rule over Indigenous laborers? Issac I Navarro (talk) 16:02, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- I like your first one: How about
ALT8:The native labor case had him acquitted during the grand jury phase, i.e. it didn't go to trial. I'm also a bit concerned that "revolutionary" could be interpreted as an American revolutionary in the 1780s' war. Aaron Liu (talk) 16:40, 7 April 2025 (UTC)that Cave Johnson Couts, a pioneer San Diego judge and rancher, was also separately acquitted for shooting a former revolutionary, firing on funeral mourners, and whipping a native laborer to death?
- I like your first one: How about
- In that case, how about we specify that Mendoza was his former majordomo? The fact that Mendoza had been a participant in the Mexican Revolutionary War is nowhere near as relevant to the incident as the fact that he had been one of Couts' household employees. (I've edited the article to accommodate this.) So, ALT8A: that Cave Johnson Couts, a pioneer San Diego judge and rancher, was also separately acquitted for shooting a former household employee, firing on funeral mourners, and whipping a native laborer to death? DS (talk) 18:50, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- That's very unclear. How about "his former head servant"? Aaron Liu (talk) 12:30, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- To be clear: I suggested "household employee" rather than "majordomo", and you are saying that you would prefer "head servant" over "household employee"? Confirm? DS (talk) 16:12, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, and add "his". Doesn't the majordomo article say it's a head servant? Aaron Liu (talk) 01:33, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- To be clear: I suggested "household employee" rather than "majordomo", and you are saying that you would prefer "head servant" over "household employee"? Confirm? DS (talk) 16:12, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- That's very unclear. How about "his former head servant"? Aaron Liu (talk) 12:30, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- In that case, how about we specify that Mendoza was his former majordomo? The fact that Mendoza had been a participant in the Mexican Revolutionary War is nowhere near as relevant to the incident as the fact that he had been one of Couts' household employees. (I've edited the article to accommodate this.) So, ALT8A: that Cave Johnson Couts, a pioneer San Diego judge and rancher, was also separately acquitted for shooting a former household employee, firing on funeral mourners, and whipping a native laborer to death? DS (talk) 18:50, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
Okay, fine, go with 'his majordomo' (or 'his former majordomo', your choice). DS (talk) 18:19, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think "majordomo" is understandable enough. Is there reason not to use "head servant"? Aaron Liu (talk) 18:21, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Because the term 'servant' implies and connotes some things and we don't know if those applied to Mendoza. DS (talk) 04:00, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't see any connotations that the definition of "majordomo" doesn't suggest. Could you give some example connotations? "Majordomo" is quite an obscure word and thus way less attractive than any common synonym. How about "foreman"? Aaron Liu (talk) 20:44, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- "Foreman" it is. DS (talk) 21:26, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't see any connotations that the definition of "majordomo" doesn't suggest. Could you give some example connotations? "Majordomo" is quite an obscure word and thus way less attractive than any common synonym. How about "foreman"? Aaron Liu (talk) 20:44, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Because the term 'servant' implies and connotes some things and we don't know if those applied to Mendoza. DS (talk) 04:00, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Alright! Putting this here to make it easier for the reviewer: ALT9: that Cave Johnson Couts, a pioneer San Diego judge and rancher, was also separately acquitted for shooting his foreman, firing on funeral mourners, and whipping a native laborer to death?
Source; Same as ALT0 + this one for Mendoza being "his former ranch foreman" Aaron Liu (talk) 14:29, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Seems good to me. As it would pass Wikipedia:Did you know/DYKcheck,Issac I Navarro (talk) 16:46, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
Full review needed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:10, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
Dexcom CGM
- ... that the Dexcom G6 was the first continuous glucose monitor to function without requiring calibrations, thereby eliminating the need for regular fingerstick blood tests?
- Source: 1. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6477582/ "...the FDA approved the Dexcom G6 as the first real-time factory-calibrated CGM system..." 2. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6422005/ "...sixth-generation factory-calibrated real-time CGM (rtCGM) system (G6) was developed..."
- ALT1: ... that the Dexcom Seven, launched in 2007, was the first CGM system capable of delivering continuous glucose data for a full seven days, doubling the lifespan of its predecessor?
- Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8120065/ "...the STS-7, which was the first device to allow patients to continuously monitor their glucose levels for seven days as opposed to three."
- ALT2: ... that Dexcom aired its first-ever Super Bowl ad in 2023, featuring Nick Jonas, who lives with type 1 diabetes and uses the Dexcom G7 CGM?
- Source: https://www.drugdeliverybusiness.com/dexcom-us-g7-launch-super-bowl-nick-jonas/ "The ad, set to run during the second quarter of Super Bowl LVII on Feb. 12, features musician, actor and philanthropist Nick Jonas. Jonas lives with type 1 diabetes..."
- ALT3: ... that the Dexcom Follow app enables up to ten designated users—like parents or caregivers—to remotely monitor a person’s real-time glucose readings on their mobile devices?
- Source:https://www.dexcom.com/apps
- Reviewed:
MallardTV Talk to me! 23:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: So far so good, article passed minimum length criterion and newness. Source spot checks indicate good results, though I don't think every product name needs to be bolded? I would AGF on the interpretation that "first real-time factory-calibrated CGM system" means "without requiring calibrations". I also endorse the ALT0 hook, though I think it would be much more compact if you end the hook at "...calibrations" (no need for the "thereby eliminating the need for regular fingerstick blood tests?"). Approved! Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 04:32, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
Pulled per concerns raised at WT:DYK#Queue 5 (7 May, 00:00). A new hook will be needed here, one that is less likely to be challenged and also one that may not be perceived as advertising. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:29, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
ALT2 may be better, it is easily verifiable and just as interesting. MallardTV Talk to me! 13:13, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Suggestion from our Discord discussion:
- ALT2a: ... that a 2023 Super Bowl ad featured Nick Jonas using a Dexcom G7 CGM?
- I think this is just as interesting, shorter, and a bit less promotional. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:04, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- On second thought, I might have trimmed this a bit too much, at the expense of meaning anything to someone unfamiliar with the subject matter. Perhaps a mention or link to type 1 diabetes should find its way back into the hook somewhere. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:12, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2b: ... that a 2023 Super Bowl ad featured Nick Jonas, a type one diabetic, using a Dexcom G7 CGM?
Articles created/expanded on April 8
[edit]Royalty Pharma
- ... that by its own count, Royalty Pharma owns partial rights to 7 of the top 30 selling drugs in the United States?
- Source: "Cashing in on rising drug prices often unleashes an outcry from consumers and politicians. But a little-known private equity investor, Royalty Pharma, has built an unusual investment portfolio valued at $15 billion — it buys up the rights to royalties on future drug sales — while largely avoiding public controversy. By its own count, Royalty Pharma owns partial rights to seven of the 30 top-selling drugs in the United States, including giants like Humira, the arthritis treatment that is the single biggest-selling medication in America. And its deals have been getting larger." NY Times
Thriley (talk) 16:29, 13 April 2025 (UTC).
- QPQ done, article seems long enough and decently sourced, no copyvio concerns. However, per the original source and your excerpt, the claim is specifically By its own count, Royalty Pharma owns partial rights to seven of the 30 top-selling drugs in the United States (emphasis mine). Also, change "seven" to "7" for consistency per MOS:NUM. Change these here and in the article and I'll finish this review. Departure– (talk) 19:36, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: Thank you for your review! I have made the changes you recommended. Thriley (talk) 04:33, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 9
[edit]Golden Temple
- ... that the Golden Temple is made of copper overlaid with gold leaves?
- Reviewed:
saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs⚔ 19:50, 13 April 2025 (UTC).
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- At least one sentence copied/closely paraphrased from bbc.co.uk; see Copyvio Detector.
- Other problems:
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- Cited:
- The proposed hook as written is not supported in the article. The article says
The Temple was renovated in marble and copper in 1809, and in 1830 Ranjit Singh donated gold to overlay the sanctum with gold leaf.
The article does not support the idea that the Temple ismade of copper
. The listed source for the hook is not accessible via Google Books, and the source for the claim in the article, pp. 28-30, also does not mention anything about the temple materials including copper. The Encyclopedia of Sikhism entry on the temple does say its upper levels and roofs are gilded copper. - Interesting:
- Not very. I would recommend making it a bit more specific. It is unsurprising that a "Golden Temple" would indeed have gold leaf on it.
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Overall: Updated 28 April 2025; DYK withdrawn without necessary improvements. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:19, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
@Dclemens1971 (talk) Thanks for reviewing this nomination. It's hard to change the language of the sentence as it represents the the information clearly and is a translation of the the information. As a sikh myself, I can assure that the similarity is a coincidence. Still, to prevent a violation, I've fixed it to prevent the copyright violation. Also, thanks for the source & I think that it would be better to change the hook. Apologies for taking your time in this hook as this is my first nom. saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs⚔ 09:33, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ophyrius There's still part of that sentence that is copied word for word from the BBC source. Please ping me once you have addressed that, updated the text of the hook and added an image to the DYK. Thanks! Dclemens1971 (talk) 10:32, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I have provided a courtesy ping to the nominator; if improvements are not made by 28 April I will close this DYK nomination. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:13, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Dclemens1971: I'm withdrawing this nomination as most of the sources are book sources and I was unsuccessful finding their web equivalents. Also there aren't much intersting facts in the article for dyk which are reliable. saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs⚔ 05:54, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Ophyrius: Are you really sure about withdrawing this? Given how this is the most important site in all of Sikhism I'm sure there is material that could work as a hook. @Dclemens1971: Does anything else come to mind, or is the main issue the close paraphrasing and not the lack of a hook? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:49, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: The close paraphrasing is not completely dealt with, see notes above, and that's a threshold issue, but the lack of a compelling hook is the bigger obstacle. Surely a good hook can be written but "did you know the Golden Temple is covered with gold" is not it. I am not a sufficient expert on this subject matter to develop my own hook so depend on the nominator. Feel free to reverse my "no" and restore the "maybe" if you'd like to take over the review! Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:05, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: You are right but Having been through the article, I think the content is already known by most people. But, still I think 1 sentence can nominated as hook. But, it's a book source like most others & I can't find a web equivalent. Book sources is the main reason I'm unable to find good hooks.saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs⚔ 09:11, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Ophyrius: Are you really sure about withdrawing this? Given how this is the most important site in all of Sikhism I'm sure there is material that could work as a hook. @Dclemens1971: Does anything else come to mind, or is the main issue the close paraphrasing and not the lack of a hook? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:49, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Dclemens1971: I'm withdrawing this nomination as most of the sources are book sources and I was unsuccessful finding their web equivalents. Also there aren't much intersting facts in the article for dyk which are reliable. saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs⚔ 05:54, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
If there's no problem with the source I choose this hook. Else, you can close this discussion as failed.saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs⚔ 09:25, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- ... that land for the Golden Temple was chosen by Guru Amar Das?
- Not taking over the review as I generally try to avoid reviewing articles that involve contentious topics (and the Golden Temple and Sikhism as a whole fall under that). I'll ask around and see if anyone could propose a new hook here; the article is fairly dense so there might be something useful. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:25, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- ALT ... that the Golden Temple, the holiest site in Sikhism, serves thousands of meals for free daily?
- That could definitely work if the sourcing is proper and the GAR is resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:35, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- This BBC source says it serves 100,000 meals every day, so I would tweak the hook to be more specific about that instead of just saying "thousands". ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 03:37, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5 and ArtemisiaGentileschiFan:Added image. Also having an alternative.saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs⚔ 04:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
Music of the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic fandom
- ... that in 2021, a remix of the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic fan song "Discord" went viral on TikTok, with many users unaware of its origins in brony music?
- Source: In June 2021, the The Living Tombstone remix of the 2012 song "Discord" by Odyssey Eurobeat went viral on social media. The song was named after and themed around the eponymous character from Friendship Is Magic, a mischievous draconequus known for causing chaos and disharmony.[2] The song became especially popular among the Generation Z crowd on TikTok, who made parodies, lip-syncs, and dances based on the song.[3] Several users who used the song in their videos reported that they had been previously unaware of its My Little Pony origin.[2]
- ALT1: ... that the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic fandom's music subculture has developed its own music subgenres like "Dubtrot" (a brony version of dubstep) and "Ponybeat" (brony-inspired Eurobeat)? Source: Musicians from various countries contributing across multiple musical styles including metal, rock, electronic, and specialized subgenres like "Dubtrot" (also known as "Ponystep") as a brony version of dubstep, and "Ponybeat", for brony-inspired Eurobeat popularized by fandom musician Odyssey Eurobeat (formerly known as Eurobeat Brony[2]).
- ALT2: ... that AI-generated vocals of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic characters have become popular in brony music since 2020, with creators using the web app 15.ai to make characters "sing"? Source: In March 2020, fandom musician GeekBrony released the explicit pony music video Pony Zone, which used AI-generated vocals of Twilight Sparkle and Fluttershy from the popular text-to-speech web app 15.ai.[4]
- Reviewed:
GregariousMadness (talk to me!) 23:12, 10 April 2025 (UTC).
- @GregariousMadness: Not a review, but WP:CRACKED is not a reliable source.--Launchballer 16:39, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I call dibs on this one for a full review. BuySomeApples (talk) 03:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Article was brand new at the time of page creation, no qpq needed and earwig is clean. All of the hooks are cited and interesting. There are some minor nitpicks with the article and hooks that I'll add below. Awesome job making this article btw! BuySomeApples (talk) 22:51, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- The lede says ""even fostering collaborations between fan creators and official show talent", this should be rephrased to be something more like ""even fostering collaborations between fan creators and official actors from the show" or "even garnering acknowledgement and collaborations from the show's crew" since that's closer to what the body of the article states.
- Refs 2 and 3 in the lede don't support the information there. It makes sense to remove those refs from the lede. since the information is verified further down in the article anyway.
- I don't see the Cracked article in the page, but it isn't needed to verify ALT0 anyway.
- ALT1 is interesting but it might be nicer if it was shorter. Something like "My Little Pony fan music has developed its own music subgenres like "Dubtrot" (a brony version of dubstep) and "Ponybeat" (brony-inspired Eurobeat)?"
- In "Post-My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic era", some redundant text can be removed "The song was
named after andthemed around the eponymous character from Friendship Is Magic, a mischievous draconequus known for causing chaos and disharmony". - "Other notable brony musicians not mentioned above include Alex S., Acoustic Brony, WoodenToaster, PrinceWhateverer, Forest Rain, PinkiePieSwear, Replacer, DustyKatt, and Mic the Microphone.[2][11][17][29]" Can this be reworded so the musicians are mentioned more naturally in the article instead of seeming like an unnecessary list?
- That's all for now, I'll take another look once you make these changes. BuySomeApples (talk) 22:51, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://visual-history.de/2024/06/04/peiter-die-ethnogenese-und-der-tutsizid-in-ruanda/
- ^ a b c Haasch, Palmer (2021-06-10). "A song called 'Discord' is going viral on TikTok, but not all creators realize it's a fan-made 'My Little Pony' song popular among 'bronies'". Business Insider. Retrieved 2025-04-10.
- ^ Tennes, Carly (2021-05-27). "Zoomers Have Apparently Discovered The Brony Fandom". Cracked.com. Retrieved 2025-04-10.
- ^ Abisola, Shojobi (January 3, 2025). "The MIT Project That Paved Way For Modern Voice AI". Independent. Archived from the original on February 27, 2025. Retrieved February 27, 2025.
Graham Rossini
- ... that Arizona State athletic director Graham Rossini became a fan of the university because he owned a baseball card of ASU player Mike Kelly? Source: https://news.asu.edu/20240523-sun-devil-community-qa-rossini-opportunities-challenges-ahead-asu-new-athletic-director
- ALT1: ... that Arizona State athletic director Graham Rossini got his start as a student assistant, with duties including washing baseball uniforms? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5524759/2024/05/29/arizona-state-graham-rossini-athletic-director/
- ALT2: ... that Arizona State athletic director Graham Rossini was described as "the tallest, skinniest catcher of all time" when he attempted to try out for the baseball team? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5524759/2024/05/29/arizona-state-graham-rossini-athletic-director/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders Opening Day starting pitchers
- Comment: This is a first for me at DYK. I created this page as part of my disclosed paid editing work for ASU (User:Melted Brie). For DYK purposes, I am crediting my normal account as the sole author as I'm not doing DYK at ASU's direction and to streamline DYK credits.
Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 06:40, 10 April 2025 (UTC).
Article looks good. Unfortunately I think being paid to create an article would disqualify it from appearing on DYK. Thriley (talk) 14:56, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fairly certain that's not true at all; that Brie was compensated for the article would mean it would deserve {{COI}}, which isn't a disqualifier per WP:DYKCOMPLETE.--Launchballer 16:34, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- It feels like a violation of the spirit of Wikipedia. If this is allowed, then all properly disclosed paid editors could use the front page to promote whatever they wanted. Thriley (talk) 21:29, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest raising this at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#ASU — disclosed paid editing. For what it's worth, Joe Matesic was passed no questions asked by BeanieFan11 (who I am purposefully not pinging per WP:CANVASS).--Launchballer 17:37, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, there's no blanket ban against DYK nominations where COI is involved. Things are treated on a case-by-case basis, rather than there being hard rules against it. We did have that issue with TonyTheTiger and his sister a while back, and that nomination was ultimately rejected, but again that nomination was discussed largely on its merits and not solely for being a COI. In this particular case, while Sammi did write the article on the direction of ASU, her nominating the article was done independently and was not a request by ASU. If it had been the latter, then perhaps this nomination would be inappropriate, but in this case, it's just an article she nominated that just happened to be one she made as part of her paid editing work, rather than her being paid to nominate it for DYK. I kinda doubt her ASU superiors even know what DYK is (please correct me if I'm wrong Sammi). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:38, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- That is correct on all counts. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 08:06, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, there's no blanket ban against DYK nominations where COI is involved. Things are treated on a case-by-case basis, rather than there being hard rules against it. We did have that issue with TonyTheTiger and his sister a while back, and that nomination was ultimately rejected, but again that nomination was discussed largely on its merits and not solely for being a COI. In this particular case, while Sammi did write the article on the direction of ASU, her nominating the article was done independently and was not a request by ASU. If it had been the latter, then perhaps this nomination would be inappropriate, but in this case, it's just an article she nominated that just happened to be one she made as part of her paid editing work, rather than her being paid to nominate it for DYK. I kinda doubt her ASU superiors even know what DYK is (please correct me if I'm wrong Sammi). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:38, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest raising this at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#ASU — disclosed paid editing. For what it's worth, Joe Matesic was passed no questions asked by BeanieFan11 (who I am purposefully not pinging per WP:CANVASS).--Launchballer 17:37, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- It feels like a violation of the spirit of Wikipedia. If this is allowed, then all properly disclosed paid editors could use the front page to promote whatever they wanted. Thriley (talk) 21:29, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fairly certain that's not true at all; that Brie was compensated for the article would mean it would deserve {{COI}}, which isn't a disqualifier per WP:DYKCOMPLETE.--Launchballer 16:34, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
There needs to be a community discussion on disclosed paid editors and DYK. I think it would be best to have a complete ban of paid articles on DYK rather than evaluating them on a case by case basis. Brie is an exceptional editor with a long history. To make an exception for her but not other paid editors opens up too many potential time consuming discussions that would be avoided with a simple ban. Thriley (talk) 15:56, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: If you believe that we need a hard ban on any COI articles on DYK, then please feel free to start an RfC about it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:36, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- I just did so. Thank you for the suggestion. Thriley (talk) 17:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: I see that you started the discussion, however it was on Rossini's talk page rather than a page with a wider audience like WT:DYK. If it's possible, I would suggest relocating the RfC. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:39, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Is there another place that would have an even wider audience? The DYK community is fairly small. Thriley (talk) 18:52, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- There probably is, but I think DYK should decide what DYK runs even if it is small.--Launchballer 18:55, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Is there another place that would have an even wider audience? The DYK community is fairly small. Thriley (talk) 18:52, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: I see that you started the discussion, however it was on Rossini's talk page rather than a page with a wider audience like WT:DYK. If it's possible, I would suggest relocating the RfC. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:39, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- I just did so. Thank you for the suggestion. Thriley (talk) 17:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
Visit Myanmar Year
- ... that in response to Visit Myanmar Year, Aung San Suu Kyi led a movement for a boycott that advised "Don't Visit Myanmar"?
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/15/travel/weighing-the-ethics-of-a-trip.html
https://www.burmalibrary.org/reg.burma/archives/199607/msg00256.htmlTarheelBornBred (talk) 21:40, 9 April 2025 (UTC).
WP:QPQ not done (or not linked above), stalled till then, may be quick failed if not completed soon.
- Note: I will most probably not be able to review this after QPQ is submitted as I just came across while patrolling. Others can definitely take over this review. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 11:58, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Bunnypranav: I think I linked the QPQ I did, this is my first time doing one so if I did it wrong I apologize. User:TarheelBornBred 17:04, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
Comment: @TarheelBornBred:The hook is not supported in the article, in particular the phrase "Don't visit Myanmar" does not appear in the article. — ERcheck (talk) 15:11, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- What about the hook ALT1, "In response to Visit Myanmar Year, Aung San Suu Kyi and the Burma Action Group both led a movement for a boycott that advised tourists not to visit Myanmar"? That way, the hook is more in line with the article.
Bill Cottrell
- ... that football player Bill Cottrell was the first black center in the NFL?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Alejandro Finisterre
- Comment:
To complete QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:51, 9 April 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: Article was expanded 5 times within 7 days of nomination. Article is more than 1,500 characters in prose and is written in a neutral tone. Earwig picked up an unlikely copyright violation of 30.6%, with most of it having to do with direct quotes from Cottrell himself. If there is a way to reduce those, that would be preferable. The hook is a "(subject) is..." quote, but I think it's still interesting because it's notable. National Football League should be wikilinked in the hook, though. A QPQ is still needed at this time. lullabying (talk) 09:01, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Lullabying: Added NFL link to the hook. You might have missed that I already included a QPQ, listed above: Template:Did you know nominations/Alejandro Finisterre. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:30, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
Issues resolved. Good to go. lullabying (talk) 07:30, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Pulled per concerns raised at WT:DYK#Queue 5 (7 May, 00:00). We'll need a new hook here, one that is less likely to be challenged. @BeanieFan11 and Lullabying: How about:
- ALT1 ... that after his NFL career, Bill Cottrell became a personnel supervisor at the Ford Motor Company?
- ALT2 ... that Bill Cottrell helped organize chapel services during his time playing for the Detroit Lions?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:33, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- I could live with those being the hook, but IMO the original hook is more 'hooky'. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:55, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Given how that "first" claim was objected to, it might be for the best to move away from it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:47, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- I could live with those being the hook, but IMO the original hook is more 'hooky'. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:55, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 11
[edit]Marva Nabili
- ... that Marva Nabili, a member of the Iranian New Wave, made a film about the struggles of family in Manhattan's Chinatown?
- Source: "MARVA NABILI, an immigrant film maker from Iran, has written and directed Nightsongs, a fictional portrait of Chinese immigrants in New York. Having spent several years living near and even working in Chinatown, she has compiled a haunting biography of outsiders trying to survive in a new environment. The slice-of-life details are depicted with the immediacy of a documentary using a hidden camera. Being presented as part of public television's American Playhouse series,"
Thriley (talk) 05:10, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
- One suggestion on the hook is to clarify which Chinatown ie "...the struggles of a family in New York's Chinatown." I know it's possible to hover over the link and identify which one it is but I think the additional specificity helps create curiosity. EEHalli (talk) 14:01, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Good idea. I added that to the hook. Thriley (talk) 16:17, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Article is new enough and long enough, is sourced, neutral and plagiarism free. However the lead needs expanding, and I was confused by this sentence "In 1977, at the age of 36, Nabili became the second female director to make a feature film in Iran after Shala Riari's Marjan in 1956, a public failure at the time, of which no trace remains." - it seems to contradict the earlier paragraph about her return in 1975, nor does it specifiy the film. If its the Sealed Soil, then it need integrating into the paragraph on that topic and the chronology of production clarifying. Lajmmoore (talk) 19:24, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Manasse Malo
- ... that MP Manasse Malo was beaten 50 times by his elementary school teacher after failing to answer a math question? Source: Halawa, Ohiao (1999). Profil 48 Ketua Umum Parpol RI [Profile of the 48 Chairpersons of the Political Parties in Indonesia] (in Indonesian). Jakarta: NIAS and Kreasi Karya Wiguna. p. 461.
Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 08:40, 14 April 2025 (UTC).
- @Jeromi Mikhael: Please do a QPQ on this nom in the next 24 hours or this may be closed without warning. ミラP@Miraclepine 19:45, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine:
Done Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 23:13, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine:
@Jeromi Mikhael: New enough and long enough. QPQ present. I'd be ready to accept the hook fact AGF, but the hook fact sentence has no cite invocation right now. That needs to be fixed. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 22:52, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: I could provide the exact quote of the source for the hook later this day. Anyways I've amended the prose to include the source in the DYK'd sentence. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 01:55, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
Comment: @Jeromi Mikhael and Sammi Brie: The hook is unclear due to nuances of the English language. Did he receive beatings on 50 separate occasions, or was it a single occasion on which he was struck 50 times?
Articles created/expanded on April 12
[edit]Technical geography
- ... that technical geography develops and tests methods for handling spatial information?
- ALT1: ... that technical geography studies the application of technologies like Geographic information systems, cartography, and remote sensing? Source: [1][2][3]
- Reviewed:
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- Comment: @GeogSage: I can’t speak for others, but I don’t find either of your hooks interesting. Try to come up with others. Viriditas (talk) 01:15, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: @GeogSage: I'm seeing a lot of good, potential hooks in the article. Your section on "Early history and etymology" has quite a few. The material about Eratosthenes, the Ptolemaic tradition, and Islamic geographers could make separate hooks or could even be combined into one hook. Viriditas (talk) 01:43, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:: Thanks for the feedback. This is my first attempt, and I've been trying to think of good ways to respond. Would I put a new one in the comments here, or edit the proposal? GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 02:20, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- @GeogSage: Brief response is best. No need to overthink it. Be yourself. Viriditas (talk) 02:22, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:: Thanks for the feedback. This is my first attempt, and I've been trying to think of good ways to respond. Would I put a new one in the comments here, or edit the proposal? GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 02:20, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: @GeogSage: I'm seeing a lot of good, potential hooks in the article. Your section on "Early history and etymology" has quite a few. The material about Eratosthenes, the Ptolemaic tradition, and Islamic geographers could make separate hooks or could even be combined into one hook. Viriditas (talk) 01:43, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 13
[edit]Kajaani Castle
- ... that upon its completion, the Kajaani Castle (pictured) was the northernmost stone castle in Europe?
- Source: Vuoden 2004 näyttelyt, Museum of Kainuu. Accessed on 16 September 2013.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Reinaldo Herrera
- Comment:
JIP | Talk 09:03, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
- The article has been expanded by more than 5 times in the past week, no isses with copyright, and the information is cited both in the article and hook. My only question is if the hook could also mention the castle's location in Sweden (fine if not). However, there is significant uncited sections within the article. GGOTCC 21:09, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- I will see if I can find more sources for the article. Both the Finnish and the Swedish articles about the castle have an infobox, I could probably add one for this article as well. I am assuming that it's fine to mention the castle as being in Sweden as the area it's located in belonged to Sweden from when the castle was constructed to well past its destruction, although it's now located in independent Finland. JIP | Talk 21:38, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have citations for Kajaani Castle in literature and From ruin to restoration? If not, the article is not eligable for DYK. GGOTCC 21:45, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- I will see if I can find some sources. JIP | Talk 21:53, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @GGOTCC: I have now expanded the article adding some more sources. JIP | Talk 16:40, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- @JIP: I still see a lot of uncited information. Many paragraphs lack a ref at the end and sentences are still uncited. GGOTCC 19:18, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GGOTCC: I have loaned professor Reijo Heikkinen's book about the Kajaani Castle from the library and added some more references based on it. I also have two other books and will try to see if I can add still more references. JIP | Talk 21:06, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- @JIP: Much better, but the last two sentences in From ruin to restoration is uncited. GGOTCC 20:20, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GGOTCC: I can see if I can find references for them in professor Heikkinen's book. I can't find any references for them they can just be removed as uncited. I don't think the article will suffer much for that. JIP | Talk 22:28, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- @JIP: Cool, I will remove those sentences shortly. There are some other issues with lines such as:
- @GGOTCC: I can see if I can find references for them in professor Heikkinen's book. I can't find any references for them they can just be removed as uncited. I don't think the article will suffer much for that. JIP | Talk 22:28, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- @JIP: Much better, but the last two sentences in From ruin to restoration is uncited. GGOTCC 20:20, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GGOTCC: I have loaned professor Reijo Heikkinen's book about the Kajaani Castle from the library and added some more references based on it. I also have two other books and will try to see if I can add still more references. JIP | Talk 21:06, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- @JIP: I still see a lot of uncited information. Many paragraphs lack a ref at the end and sentences are still uncited. GGOTCC 19:18, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GGOTCC: I have now expanded the article adding some more sources. JIP | Talk 16:40, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- I will see if I can find some sources. JIP | Talk 21:53, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have citations for Kajaani Castle in literature and From ruin to restoration? If not, the article is not eligable for DYK. GGOTCC 21:45, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- I will see if I can find more sources for the article. Both the Finnish and the Swedish articles about the castle have an infobox, I could probably add one for this article as well. I am assuming that it's fine to mention the castle as being in Sweden as the area it's located in belonged to Sweden from when the castle was constructed to well past its destruction, although it's now located in independent Finland. JIP | Talk 21:38, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- and this also applied to his successor Johan Ulfsparre.
- After several battles, Tysk was feared to be dead, and Finland's equerry Nils Olofsson was appointed as a temporary castle commander. Olofsson did not continue the construction of the castle either.,
- In the third episode of the novel during the Great Northern War in 1776 the character Kustaa Bertelsköld, a Carolean wounded in the war, bears witness along with his wife in the castle to the Russian siege and the castle's surrender. The events also include the real historical persons the castle's commander Johan Henrik Fieandt and the Paltamo-born strongman Daniel Cajanus ("Daniel the Tall") who later achieved fame throughout Europe, who in Topelius's story explodes the castle's gunpowder cellar at the age of thirteen and so causes the destruction of the castle conquered by the enemy.
- Daniel Cajanus also plays a part in Kukkonen's novel following Fieandt's family to prison and on their escape back to freedom.
Since these are substancial parts of the prose, I assumed the refs got mixed up and accidently dropped. Can you make sense of this? GGOTCC 23:47, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GGOTCC: I have found references for the third point in your list. I will have to search for references for the remaining three. If no references can be found, the lines might have to be removed as uncited. JIP | Talk 22:56, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
Priamurye Governorate-General
- ... that Priamurye Governorate-General, a Russian colony, was home to East Asian merchants, farmers, labourers and political activists?
- Source: Park, Alyssa M. (2019). Sovereignty Experiments: Korean Migrants and the Building of Borders in Northeast Asia, 1860–1945. Studies of the Weatherhead East Asia Institute, Columbia University. Ithaca and London: Cornell University Press. p. 138:
- "Korean and Chinese farmhands, miners, fishermen, and carriers, numbering in the tens of thousands, had forced Russian farmers and industralists into a perpetual cycle of dependence on foreign labor."
- Stephan, John J. (1994). The Russian Far East: A History. Stanford, California: Stanford University Press. pp. 72, 75–77. ISBN 9780804727013:
- "Chinese merchants took advantage of the free trade zone on both sides of the border and did a thriving business in Blagoveshchensk, Khabarovsk, Nikolsk, and Vladivostok. Vladivostok attracted merchants, tradesmen and peddlers from Shanghai and Canton as well as seasonal labor from Shandong and Shanxi." (p. 72)
- "Regardless of citizenship, Koreans demonstrated energy, enterprise, and adaptability. Like the Chinese, they kept Vladivostok and Khabarovsk supplied with fresh vegetables. In addition to farming their own parcels, they cultivated the lands of their Cossack, Russian, and Ukrainian landlords, leading an official to remark in 1906 that 'Koreans work hard and always get better harvests than Russians.'" (p. 75)
- "As Tokyo tightened its grip on the peninsula after 1905, Korean exiles in the southern Primorye stepped up their political agitation, trained military units, roughed up local Japanese, and in 1908 carried out an armed foray across the Tumen River." (p. 76)
- "Nationalist organizations such as the Genyōsha (Black Ocean Society) and the Kokuryūkai (Amur River Society) provided additional eyes and ears, fielding Chinese- and Korean-speaking agents posing as commercial photographers, barbers, tailors, launderers, martial arts instructors, and Buddhist priests." (p. 77)"
- Source: Rogalev, A. A. (April 2024). "Паспортная сегрегация восточноазиатских иммигрантов в Приамурском генерал-губернасторстве Российской Империи (1885–1917 гг.)" [Passport Segregation of East Asian Immigrants in the Russian Empire's Priamurye Governorate-General]. International Scientific Research Journal (in Russian). 4 (142): 5. doi:10.23670/IRJ.2024.142.154 – via Cyberleninka
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Mupper-san (talk) 04:34, 13 April 2025 (UTC).
New enough, long enough. While the nominator has five DYKs, one was just as a creator and not as a nominator, so my understanding is that a QPQ is not needed. Earwig does not show anything concerning, although I'll have to hunt a bit more through what I can access. In the meantime however, two points to make. Firstly, the article lead establishes an end date of 1917, however there is nothing on this in the body (and thus no sources). Secondly, on the hook, it appears to be pulling a lot of sources together in a way they are not presented in the article. For example, "political activists" is not in the article, and if it refers to the ethnic tensions I'm not sure it's the right term. I'm also not sure about the interestingness of the ALT0 hook, I somewhat expect Russia to have East Asian people of various professions and persuasions. I find each individual source quote above to be more interesting than the synthesis of the hook, so I would recommend proposing more potential hooks from this quite interesting article. (Lastly and leastly for now, source [12] undated Korablin doesn't point to anything, I suspect it is meant to be Korablin 2004?) CMD (talk) 07:38, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: I'm not sure if there's a better word to broadly encompass Genyōsha, Kokuryūkai and Korean military/political groups besides "activists"; they could perhaps be referred to as "militants" instead, but I'm not sure if it was wholly militant in nature, since Stephan briefly alludes to "political agitation" in the source. I'd say that it's interesting given both the multi-ethnic nature of the East Asian populations and the fact that they often go unmentioned outside of the Russian Civil War and Stalinist periods, but that is, of course, my own subjective opinion. I've fixed the Korablin source now, and added info on its cessation of existence in 1917. Mupper-san (talk) 23:32, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- The aspects you mention as interesting, the multi-ethnic nature and the lack of mention, do not come through in the hook. CMD (talk) 01:46, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: I apologise for the late response and the vagueness of the previous response. When I said "multi-ethnic", I meant in the sense that they were not ethnic Russians or Slavs, rather than the multiple ethnicities that made them up. The usage of "multi-ethnic" in such a way was poor phrasing on my part. This is a fact that I haven't ever seen discussed by people I know, nor that seems to often be mentioned in non-academic and even some academic discussion of the Far East (for instance, the Russian Far East article only notes the existence of a Korean population in two passages, and does not note the existence of Chinese and Japanese populations at all). Mupper-san (talk) 11:15, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- No urgency here. That interpretation need someone to know before reading the hook that Priamurye Governorate-General is in East Asia or the Russian Far East doesn't it? If the idea is to make an interesting point by noting the non-Slavic population, why not a hook about the internal segregation/passporting? CMD (talk) 14:22, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: That works as well. I've added an alternate hook on the basis of the segregation. Mupper-san (talk) 07:14, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I like it. On source verification for that, is the word "native" right here? The source states passports were given upon "прибытию", which would suggest immigration. Later text also talks about immigration laws and Chinese immigration from Yantai (I think?). (To my earlier comment on checking, I haven't seen any issues with verification or plagiarism.) CMD (talk) 06:46, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: That works as well. I've added an alternate hook on the basis of the segregation. Mupper-san (talk) 07:14, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- No urgency here. That interpretation need someone to know before reading the hook that Priamurye Governorate-General is in East Asia or the Russian Far East doesn't it? If the idea is to make an interesting point by noting the non-Slavic population, why not a hook about the internal segregation/passporting? CMD (talk) 14:22, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: I apologise for the late response and the vagueness of the previous response. When I said "multi-ethnic", I meant in the sense that they were not ethnic Russians or Slavs, rather than the multiple ethnicities that made them up. The usage of "multi-ethnic" in such a way was poor phrasing on my part. This is a fact that I haven't ever seen discussed by people I know, nor that seems to often be mentioned in non-academic and even some academic discussion of the Far East (for instance, the Russian Far East article only notes the existence of a Korean population in two passages, and does not note the existence of Chinese and Japanese populations at all). Mupper-san (talk) 11:15, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- The aspects you mention as interesting, the multi-ethnic nature and the lack of mention, do not come through in the hook. CMD (talk) 01:46, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: I'm not sure if there's a better word to broadly encompass Genyōsha, Kokuryūkai and Korean military/political groups besides "activists"; they could perhaps be referred to as "militants" instead, but I'm not sure if it was wholly militant in nature, since Stephan briefly alludes to "political agitation" in the source. I'd say that it's interesting given both the multi-ethnic nature of the East Asian populations and the fact that they often go unmentioned outside of the Russian Civil War and Stalinist periods, but that is, of course, my own subjective opinion. I've fixed the Korablin source now, and added info on its cessation of existence in 1917. Mupper-san (talk) 23:32, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 14
[edit]Mike Estep (American football)
... that football player Mike Estep, who had "the demure of a person who wouldn't hurt a fly," was nicknamed The Terminator?
- Source: Daily Sentinel-Tribune
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bergebyløpet N70
- Comment:
To do QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:01, 21 April 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review, but is the quote really necessary for the hook? Just simply "that American football player Mike Estep was nicknamed The Terminator" would probably be more effective as a hook. Regardless, the hook needs to specify American football given how notoriously vague that word is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:42, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- I mean, you could say just that he was nicknamed The Terminator, but I think someone known for "not hurting a fly" having such a nickname is a more interesting contrast. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:10, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
The hook quote isn't even grammatical: "demure" is an adjective, and doesn't fit there. If the quote is really necessary (and I'm not convinced it is), then changing the part after the bold link to be
"who wouldn't hurt a fly", was nicknamed
... Note that Wikipedia uses logical quotations, so the comma would be outside the quote marks. I also don't think "The Terminator" should be in italics, since it's the name of a character in this case, not a movie. Please supply a new hook; I've struck the one that was supplied. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:59, 1 May 2025 (UTC)- Then perhaps what Narutolovehinata5 suggested? ALT1 ... that American football player Mike Estep was nicknamed "The Terminator"? BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:38, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- I mean, you could say just that he was nicknamed The Terminator, but I think someone known for "not hurting a fly" having such a nickname is a more interesting contrast. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:10, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
Future Days (The Last of Us)
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- ... that Craig Mazin (pictured) submitted the script for The Last of Us's second season premiere about 90 minutes before the 2023 writers' strike?
- Source: Entertainment Weekly
- ALT1: ... that the writers of The Last of Us had to consider the state of LGBTQ rights in 2003 for the second season premiere? Source: Wired
- ALT2: ... that Bella Ramsey (pictured) trained in Brazilian jiu-jitsu for two months before filming the second season premiere of The Last of Us? Source: USA Today
- ALT3: ... that a shot in the second season premiere of The Last of Us was framed to match the video game? Source: Variety & HBO: 33:53
- ALT4: ... that Catherine O'Hara's (pictured) casting in the second season premiere of The Last of Us was inspired by Bryan Cranston's role as Walter White in Breaking Bad? Source: HBO: 25:37
- ALT5: ... that one reviewer called The Last of Us's second season premiere "perhaps [Pedro] Pascal's (pictured) finest acting work to date"? Source: The A.V. Club
- ALT6: ... that Isabela Merced (pictured) and Young Mazino unwittingly took Gustavo Santaolalla's instrument while filming The Last of Us's second season premiere? Source: Cosmopolitan
- Reviewed: The Robot Revolution
- Comment: Plenty of possible image options: Mazin with ALT0, Ramsey with ALT2, O'Hara with ALT4, Pascal with ALT5, Merced or Mazino with ALT6
– Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:40, 14 April 2025 (UTC).
- @Rhain: One reviewer's opinion about Pascal's performance in "Future Days" may well be fine, but I've added something in the filming section about Isabela Merced and Young Mazino unwittingly becoming [ronroco] thieves against Gustavo Santaolalla during filming: want to swap it out real quick?
- ...that during filming for The Last of Us's second season premiere, performers Isabela Merced and Young Mazino unwittingly stole composer Gustavo Santaolalla's instrument?
- Source: Cosmo
- BarntToust 23:23, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- No offense intended—I just don't quite see the interesting aspect or uniqueness in Pedro Pascal being generously lauded—so I offer note of the (accidentally) troublesome antics of the leading performers. BarntToust 23:27, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- Interesting idea—added ALT6. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 23:47, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 15
[edit]Dilaw (song)
- ... that "Dilaw" was a dominant song in the Philippines and gained international recognition?
- Source: ABS-CBN, Billboard Philippines
- ALT1: ... that "Dilaw" reached the top spot on Billboard Philippines Hot 100 and Top Philippines Songs chart and entered the Spotify Global Chart at 200? Source: Billboard Philippines
- ALT2: ... that the creator of "Dilaw" Maki is a leading OPM artist with the most listeners on Spotify? Source: ABS-CBN CORPORATE, TRIBUNE
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chocolate in savory cooking
ROY is WAR Talk! 09:43, 20 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 16
[edit]Arthur Loveless
- ... that Arthur Loveless never married?
- Source: Michelson, Alan. "Arthur Lamont Loveless". Pacific Coast Architecture Database (PCAD). https://pcad.lib.washington.edu/person/2488/
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:51, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
@Generalissima: Article seems to pass all requirements, QPQ done. Hook is a so-so but considering the last name I get the hook :). Would you be okay with "... that Loveless was loveless?" or another formulated hook? Arconning (talk) 06:20, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Arconning: Oh, forgot to respond; I don't know, I think that sounds too forced. I think the initial phrasing is better. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:18, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Fwiw I like the original hook. BuySomeApples (talk) 02:38, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 17
[edit]Dominic Vairo
- ... that football player Dominic Vairo went from being forced off the freshman team at Notre Dame to being captain of the varsity team?
- Source: Capital Times
- ALT1: ... that NFL player Dominic Vairo "pretty much forgot about pro football" after watching Don Hutson? Source: Michigan Tech
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/William Arthur Ganfield
- Comment:
To do QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:48, 24 April 2025 (UTC).
- I'd do the QPQ for this nomination. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:11, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- This is not explained, but a "freshman team" seems to be a different team from the actual team competing in actual competitions that count. Varsity team doesn't explain this that well; the junior varsity term is explained extensively there but there seems to be subtle difference. It seems to be a kind of a reserve team. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:17, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Correct, its a type of reserve team. Can you think of a better way to word it in the hook? Perhaps "reserve team" rather than "freshman team"? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:04, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'd rather link to "Freshman team" to Varsity team#North America, then change "varsity team" in the end to "football team" or even "varsity team". Adding "football" adds another can of worms on referring to what kind of "football" this is (LOL). Understanding this term is key in understanding the hook, and reserve team is mostly in the European POV where a team has a "second team" where it can tap players in cases of injury. This seems to be different as college football programs, while may have other teams, are not allowed to get players from those teams due to scholarship rules. The reader may have an idea where this guy started from the bottom and worked his way up. ALT1 doesn't really mean anything if you do not know who Don Hutson is.
- I'd get on the rest of the article later this week. Howard the Duck (talk) 03:40, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Correct, its a type of reserve team. Can you think of a better way to word it in the hook? Perhaps "reserve team" rather than "freshman team"? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:04, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- This is not explained, but a "freshman team" seems to be a different team from the actual team competing in actual competitions that count. Varsity team doesn't explain this that well; the junior varsity term is explained extensively there but there seems to be subtle difference. It seems to be a kind of a reserve team. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:17, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Furhat (robot)
- ... that the Furhat social robot can track facial expressions and interact with up to ten people at once?
- Source: Biba, Jacob (May 8, 2024). "What Is a Social Robot?". Built In. Retrieved April 10, 2025.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Invited to submit a fact since article got a B rating in AfC
Viljowf (talk) 18:31, 17 April 2025 (UTC).
The article is new, long enough, and comprehensive. I do not see any neutrality or style concerns, but Gheus has placed the Template:Paid contributions tag. Is there anything wrong with the content of the article, Gheus? Surtsicna (talk) 22:57, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- You can remove it if you think it has no COI concerns. Gheus (talk) 06:13, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 18
[edit]Destiel
- ... that Olive Garden and Chili's once got in a shipping war?
- ALT1: ... that Jensen Ackles pretended not to know about Destiel?
- Source: "I'm gonna pretend like I don't know what the question was"
- https://www.tvguide.com/news/supernatural-queerbaiting-destiel-1089286/
- ALT2: ... that Destiel shippers exist in the Supernatural universe?
- Reviewed:
Jessica3801 (talk) 17:41, 21 April 2025 (UTC).
- Comment ALT0 is probably the most interesting, but I'm about 60% sure the WP article needs to also refer to the spat as a shipping war for the hook to run. Also, shipping wars is a pretty niche term that might be worth a wikilink, so perhaps: ALT3: ... that Olive Garden and Chili's got in a ship war over Destiel? Based5290 :3 (talk) 18:55, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Brave Bunnies
- ... that European broadcasters waived their rights to Brave Bunnies so that the children's series could be streamed ad-free in Ukrainian for refugees?
- Source: Marian McHugh, Broadcast "Go Jetters helps launch Ukrainian-language YouTube channel", 16 June 2022, ProQuest 2677615627. Quote: "A YouTube channel dedicated to entertaining Ukrainian children displaced by the war is to launch on 1 July [2022] ... offer pre-school and primary school-aged refugee children across the UK and Europe entertainment in their own language and will also house shows from Ukrainian producers, including Brave Bunnies ... The ad-free YouTube channel ... Everyone involved has given up their time and rights to their content for nothing ... It really shows that the creative industries can be a force for good." Also Connie Evans, The Herald (Glasgow) "YouTube's channel for Ukraine", 17 June 2022, ProQuest 2677284195. Quote: "A non-profit YouTube channel created specifically for Ukrainian children displaced by the war is set to launch ... shows by Ukrainian producers with titles such as Brave Bunnies".
- ALT1: ... that weeks after production of Brave Bunnies was suspended due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, its production coordinator had become a war correspondent? Source: Natalia Yermak, New York Times "A Cartoon Producer Turned War Reporter: Times Insider", 1 June 2022, ProQuest 2671841726. Quote: "the day before the Russian invasion began. I was working as a production coordinator at a company that produced a Ukrainian cartoon series for children called "Brave Bunnies." ... The “Brave Bunnies” team decided to put production on hold ... I started collecting and documenting stories as a form of volunteerism; I wanted to help share information about the war. Colleagues and friends connected me with various news media outlets. Soon, I was presented with an opportunity to work with The New York Times. ... About a month after my unexpected last day at "Brave Bunnies," I became a member of a team"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Musalla Complex
Reidgreg (talk) 19:57, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
Lacrateides Relief
- ... that the Lacrateides Relief is a large ancient Greek relief depicting the Eleusinian deities and heroes?
- Source: Papangeli, Kalliope (2002). Eleusis: the archaeological site and the museum (PDF). Athens: Omilos Latsi. p. 243. ISBN 960-86743-2-8.
- Reviewed:
Deiadameian (talk) 18:57, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review, but the hook as currently written may not meet WP:DYKINT as being interesting to a broad, non-specialist audience.
@Deiademian:Can you please propose additional hooks that would be more familiar to general readers either unfamiliar with or only have a basic understanding of Greek mythology? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:03, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Deiadameian: Fixed ping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:03, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- That's unfortunate, then. What about "...that the Lacrateides Relief is a fragmented ancient Greek votive relief that was found in sixty pieces?"? Deiadameian (talk) 17:14, 20 April 2025 (UTC).
- I'll leave it to you, but I'd personally word it as something like: ... the Lacrateides Relief (pictured) was found in sixty pieces? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:37, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Two points (not directed at the latter alternative in particular, but the overall wording in both): if I'm understanding the article correctly, the number of extant pieces seems not to be exactly sixty (
the surviving fragments, which number about sixty
), and I think it's worth considering that "in sixty pieces" could sound as though those sixty pieces constitute the complete relief. The latter would likely be remedied by the presence of the image (if it's used), though arguably one shouldn't need the image to avoid ambiguity. – Michael Aurel (talk) 14:54, 21 April 2025 (UTC)- Seeing as there hasn't been any activity here since my last comment, I'll add that I think Deiadameian's first hook was the more interesting one. It was just worded in such a manner that it wasn't comprehensible to the average reader. How about something along the lines of "... that the Lacrateides Relief depicts gods from an ancient initiation cult?" – Michael Aurel (talk) 07:54, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Fine I guess. Deiadameian (talk) 11:36, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Seeing as there hasn't been any activity here since my last comment, I'll add that I think Deiadameian's first hook was the more interesting one. It was just worded in such a manner that it wasn't comprehensible to the average reader. How about something along the lines of "... that the Lacrateides Relief depicts gods from an ancient initiation cult?" – Michael Aurel (talk) 07:54, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Two points (not directed at the latter alternative in particular, but the overall wording in both): if I'm understanding the article correctly, the number of extant pieces seems not to be exactly sixty (
- I'll leave it to you, but I'd personally word it as something like: ... the Lacrateides Relief (pictured) was found in sixty pieces? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:37, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- That's unfortunate, then. What about "...that the Lacrateides Relief is a fragmented ancient Greek votive relief that was found in sixty pieces?"? Deiadameian (talk) 17:14, 20 April 2025 (UTC).
- @Deiadameian: Fixed ping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:03, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Trichy assault rifle
- ... that the Trichy assault rifle is named after Ordnance Factory Tiruchirappalli in order to recognize its contribution in developing and manufacturing the rifle?
- ALT1: ... that the Trichy assault rifle was made to reduce dependence on purchasing the Bulgarian AR-M1 under Atmanirbhar Bharat?
- Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240628105509/https://www.indiatoday.in/india-today-insight/story/baby-tar-india-s-smallest-assault-rifle-1762654-2021-01-25
- https://web.archive.org/web/20240430130152/https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Tiruchirapalli/oft-launches-40-x-46-mm-under-barrel-grenade-launcher/article35683036.ece
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Multo (song)
- Comment: Got these two in mind. Don't mind other alternatives.
Ominae (talk) 06:39, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
Tribalistas (2002 album)
- ... that the cover for Tribalistas was created by Vik Muniz, who used chocolate syrup to illustrate the trio after musical strings did not work?
- Source: Video source "Eu fiz todos os retratos do Arnaldo, Brown e da Marisa com cordas, antes. Era para ser uma capa completamente diferente. Eram com cordas de cavaquinho [...] Era todo um desenho baseado em dobrar cordas de aço." --> "I made all the portraits of Arnaldo, Brown, and Marisa with strings, before. It was supposed to be a completely different cover. They were with cavaquinho strings [...] It was all a design based on folding steel strings."
Cattos💭 02:51, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
- The current wording seems to be a bit off since it seems to focus more on Muniz than the chocolate syrup aspect. How do the following rewords sound?
- ALT0a ... that Vik Muniz used chocolate syrup to illustrate the cover for Brazilian supergroup Tribalistas' debut album after musical strings did not work?
- ALT0b ... that the cover for Brazilian supergroup Tribalistas' debut album used chocolate syrup to illustrate the trio after an earlier attempt with musical strings did not work?
- ALT0c ... that the cover for Brazilian supergroup Tribalistas' debut album used chocolate syrup to illustrate the trio?
- Admittedly, the first two new options are slightly longer than the original, but they're more intended to put more focus on the chocolate syrup fact than Muniz. Of course, if you prefer the original wording then that's fine. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:09, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Personally, those suggestions sound a bit strange as I find ALT0a to focus on Muniz himself. What if I removed the "was created by Vik Muniz, who" part in my original hook? ALT0d ... that the cover for Tribalistas used chocolate syrup to illustrate the trio after an earlier attempt with musical strings that did not work? Cattos💭 12:27, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Cathodography: How does ALT0c sound then? Another issue I had with the original wording is that it wasn't clear what "trio" referred to (it's supposed to refer to the Tribalistas, but the hook did not make it clear that "Tribalistas" was also the name of the group). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:29, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: "Trio" could possibly be replaced by "artists" or "members". If not, I'm fine with ALT0c and your most hookier ALT0b, though you did not link the supergroup Tribalistas in the hooks. Cattos💭 12:51, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- To be honest, I don't think substituting "trio" with either "members" or "artists" solves the issue because, ultimately, the problem is that ALT0 does not make it clear that Tribalistas is the name of both the album and the group. With regards to linking to linking to the group itself in ALT0b/ALT0c, there's really no need per WP:SEAOFBLUE. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:56, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: "Trio" could possibly be replaced by "artists" or "members". If not, I'm fine with ALT0c and your most hookier ALT0b, though you did not link the supergroup Tribalistas in the hooks. Cattos💭 12:51, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Cathodography: How does ALT0c sound then? Another issue I had with the original wording is that it wasn't clear what "trio" referred to (it's supposed to refer to the Tribalistas, but the hook did not make it clear that "Tribalistas" was also the name of the group). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:29, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 19
[edit]Paul Tiulana
- ... that after losing his leg in World War II, Paul Tiulana helped bring back an Iñupiat dance that had not been fully performed in over fifty years?
- Source:
In 1982 and again in 1991, the King Island Iñupiaq Eskimo community revived the Wolf Dance, which had not been performed in its entirety since 1930...Ugitkuna, Tiulana's father, died as a Wolf Dancer in the 1930 dance. Tiulana revived the Wolf Dance in 1982 and 1991.
Kingston, Deanna M.; Koyuk, Lucy Tanaqiq; Mayac, Earl Aisana (2001). "The Story of the King Island Wolf Dance, Then and Now". Western Folklore. 60 (4): 263, 277. doi:10.2307/1500408. ISSN 0043-373X.He was drafted in World War II and had his leg shattered while loading lumber in Nome. Doctors mis-set it and shipped him to a hospital in Washington state. By the time he arrived, gangrene had set in. The leg was amputated in a series of three excruciating operations.
Mike, Dunham (1994-06-20). "Paul Tiulana". Anchorage Daily News. pp. A1 and A10 – via Newspapers.com.He spearheaded a project to build a traditional skin boat, or umiak, in 1982, and he played a key role in the revival of the ceremonial Wolf Dance, which was finally performed in 1982 for the first time in more than 50 years.
"Paul Tiulana". National Endowment for the Arts. Retrieved 2025-04-19.
- ALT1: ... that after losing his leg in World War II, Paul Tiulana helped bring back an Iñupiat dance last performed by his father fifty years ago? Source: See above.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KKCB
- Comment: Couple things: Iñupiaq and Iñupiat are the plural/singular versions of the word, but they get used interchangeably (and incorrectly) enough that I can't intuit which one to use where. Apologies. The line about Tiulana's father dying in the 1930 dance is a reference to a superstition that people who would perform the dance were doomed to die. Also, in middle school I used to be friends with a distant relative of Tiulana's wife. Didn't realize that until after I wrote the article and saw a familiar looking name in her obituary, shouldn't be enough to trigger a COI anyway, but I'm noting it for the sake of transparency.
GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 18:34, 23 April 2025 (UTC).
The Fuck Tree
- ... that The Fuck Tree has been described as a "physical embodiment of desire"?
No Swan So Fine (talk) 22:39, 21 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 20
[edit]Lily Vorperian
- ... that according to one reviewer, to describe Lily Vorperian's work as embroidery was akin to "calling Coco Chanel a dressmaker"?
- Source:
To say Lily Vorperian does embroidery is a bit like calling Coco Chanel a dressmaker.
Hamilton, Denise (1995-07-27). "Stitches in Time : Through Her Elaborate, Intricate Works, Lily Vorperian Keeps Alive a Centuries-Old Art Form". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 2025-04-19 – via Newspapers.com.
- ALT1: ... that embroiderer Lily Vorperian refused to sell her works in favor of loaning them to museums? Source:
But despite being offered tens of thousands of dollars for a piece, Vorperian's art is not for sale. She loans pieces to museums and cultural exhibits, but saves the rest.
Hamilton, Denise (1995-07-27). "Stitches in Time : Through Her Elaborate, Intricate Works, Lily Vorperian Keeps Alive a Centuries-Old Art Form". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 2025-04-19 – via Newspapers.com. - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Spaceship House
- Comment: Article has her listed as a possibly living person, but trawling social media reveals that she likely died in 2008. However, the NEA didn't have her marked as deceased in a recent publication, so I'm currently scouring the internet for a RS to confirm one way or the other.
GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 20:13, 23 April 2025 (UTC).
Octo Mundi Miracula

- ... that the 1572 Octo Mundi Miracula is the source of the modern list of Seven Wonders of the Ancient World?
- ALT1: ... that the 1572 Eight Wonders of the World is the source of the modern list of classical Seven Wonders of the World?
Onceinawhile (talk) 02:00, 21 April 2025 (UTC).
Joy Laking
- ... that Joy Laking predicted in a school writing assignment that within ten years she would be making a living as an artist? Source: The Sun Times, "Drawn to Success". Source text reads: "OSCVI grad Joy Laking confidently predicted in a Grade 8 writing assignment that within 10 years she would make her living as an artist."
- ALT1: ... that Joy Laking's work was featured on the cover of the 1984 MTT provincial phone book? Source: PNI Atlantic News. Source text reads: "She has won the Woman of Excellence Award and the Queens Diamond Jubilee Medal and has been featured in several books and magazines including the cover of the 1984 MTT provincial phone book."
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my first shot at DYK, please let me know if I missed anything. Open to ideas for better hooks. Thanks!
MediaKyle (talk) 17:19, 20 April 2025 (UTC).
- I will do this review, and am starting it now. DaffodilOcean (talk) 00:48, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- This is the one point I am not certain on. The article was nominated for DYK on the same day it was nominated for GA. However, the article was not promoted to GA until May 2, which is more than 7 days after the DYK nomination. Given that this is the first DYK for MediaKyle, I am inclined to allow this. However, this is only the 2nd (3rd ? ) time I have done a DYK review, so I would appreciate some feedback from more experienced DYK reviewers.
- Long enough:
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Overall: I am not sure about the timing of the DYK nomination (see above), but otherwise I think this is fine, though I will note that ALT1 is not interesting, particularly as I have never heard of MTT so it lacks broad interest. Otherwise, thanks for the article on Laking and the DYK. I would like to see this on the main page. DaffodilOcean (talk) 01:39, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
The Naulahka: A Story of West and East
- ... that The Naulahka by Rudyard Kipling portrays a young, androgynous American woman who moves to India seeking to alleviate the suffering of women denied access to health care?
- ALT1 ... that the American protagonist of The Naulahka by Rudyard Kipling reflects Western women who from the 1880s gave relief to Indian women denied access to health care?
- ALT2 ... that The Naulahka by Rudyard Kipling depicts the barriers Indian women faced to receiving health care and the efforts of Western women to ameliorate their suffering?
Will Thorpe (talk) 13:47, 20 April 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: May run afoul of WP:DYKFICTION. Bremps... 06:02, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- I have added an alternative hook to rectify this. Thank you for raising the issue. Will Thorpe (talk) 06:09, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 21
[edit]2025 papal conclave
- ... that any baptized Catholic man may be elected pope in the ongoing conclave?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Furhat (robot)
- Source: Almond, Kyle; O'Key, Sean (7 March 2013). "The Papal Conclave". CNN. Archived from the original on 13 March 2013. Retrieved 29 April 2025.
Surtsicna (talk) 22:59, 27 April 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review as I'm involved in the article, but I added a source. It would be nice to run this in the next week or so if possible. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 14:19, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- Also not a review, but strictly speaking isn't this true for every papal conclave, like, ever? Juxlos (talk) 12:08, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- But most people wouldn't know it. Bremps... 04:20, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- What?! There's another conclave already? Don't we have enough papadam? -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 12:04, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Need some new hooks proposed here for obvious reasons. @Surtsicna: ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 23:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
Juan Astorquia
- ... that Juan Astorquia was the captain of the Athletic Bilbao team that won the first-ever official Copa del Rey title in 1903?
- Reviewed:
Barr Theo (talk) 16:06, 26 April 2025 (UTC).
- I meant "Improved to GA". Sorry, I am a first-timer around here. Barr Theo (talk) 16:12, 26 April 2025 (UTC).
Miles Caton
- ... that when he was five, Miles Caton "belted out a Sam Cooke tune" at the Lakeview, New York branch of the NAACP's 24th Annual Freedom Fund Awards Gala?
- ALT1: ... that when he was twelve, Miles Caton's performance on Little Big Shots was singled out as "the one act the audience will never forget"? Source: "the one act the audience will never forget is 12-year-old gospel singer Miles Caton."
- ALT2: ... that Miles Caton learned how to play blues guitar in two months for his starring role in Sinners? Source: "We had two months for me to prepare."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Vincent de Groof
- Comment: There were quite a few sources to pick from for this nomination; I could use another if necessary or desired.
CJ-Moki (talk) 06:14, 25 April 2025 (UTC).
FlexiRide
- ... that FlexiRide's bus services in Victoria, Australia are booked from a mobile app and sometimes from a phone number?
- Source: https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/more/travelling-on-the-network/flexiride/ "To find your nearest stop location or book FlexiRide, call (03) 8710 6377 or download the FlexiRide app from Google Play Store or Apple App Store. You can book up to seven days in advance."
- ALT1: ... that FlexiRide bus services have no fixed route, operating only when passengers book a trip using a mobile app?
- Source: https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/more/travelling-on-the-network/flexiride/ "FlexiRide has no fixed route and only operates when booked."
- ALT2: ... that the expansion of FlexiRide's on-demand bus services marked the end of Victoria, Australia's earlier Telebus operations?
- Source: https://www.knox.vic.gov.au/our-services/children-family-and-community-services/seniors-and-over-55s/alternative-transport-options-eastern-suburbs "the successor to the former Telebus", City of Knox contains the suburb of Rowville, where a Telebus service was originally
- ALT3: ... that the on-demand bus service FlexiRide began as a trial service in Yarrawonga and Mulwala, replacing the bus network in the two towns?
- Source: https://www.busnews.com.au/vics-new-approach/ "Yarrawonga and Mulwala, north of Melbourne, will be the first communities to receive a flexible demand response public transport service using existing taxis six days a week...The FlexiRide demand response service will begin operating on November 25 and will replace the current Yarrawonga and Mulwala town bus network...The organisations will be assessing the community’s support of the service over the next 12 months.
- - ABC is generally a reliable source when it comes to Australian public transport articles - WP:AUSTS/S
- ALT4: ... that the Rowville FlexiRide service won the Design award at the 2021 UITP (International Association of Public Transport) Awards?
- Source: https://www.busnews.com.au/vic-transport-and-volvo-buses-win-utip-awards/ "The 2021 Awards shone a spotlight on a key Australian project, the ‘Rowville Flexiride – Demand Responsive Public Transport System’ from the Department of Transport, Victoria, which won the Design Award" - ABC is generally a reliable source when it comes to Australian public transport articles - WP:AUSTS/S
- Reviewed:
ThatPB95 Fan (talk) 11:04, 23 April 2025 (UTC).
Sjahriar Rasad
- ... that medicine dean Sjahriar Rasad was accused of being involved in a conspiracy to assassinate President Sukarno? Source: Ford Foundation, ed. (2003). Celebrating Indonesia: fifty years with the Ford Foundation, 1953-2003. Jakarta: Ford Foundation. p. 90. ISBN 978-979-97964-1-7. "In early 1961, for instance, a number of people were arrested and charged with being part of a conspiracy known as NIGO (Nederlandse Indische Guerilla Organisatie, the Dutch Indies Guerrilla Organization), which planned to "assassinate the president and take control of authority." One person arrested was UI professor of medicine Sjahriar Rasyad, a radiologist who had never been active in politics. Even though the government could find no proof of his guilt, he was nonetheless subjected to house arrest."
Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 20:09, 21 April 2025 (UTC).
List of accidents and incidents involving Robert Mugabe's motorcade
- ... that Robert Mugabe's motorcade was known for speeding and killing people?
- ALT1: ... that Bob Mugabe and the Wailers were known for speeding and killing people?
- ALT2: ... that Nelson Mandela was not a fan of Bob Mugabe and the Wailers?
- Seery, Brendan (2010-02-20). "Driving in the same direction as mad Mugabe's motorcade". The Saturday Weekend Argus. Retrieved 2025-04-21.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Maryam Eslamdoust
- Comment: open to alts
Bremps... 09:32, 21 April 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review, but I love ALT2. I think you can get away without the quotes, but I'll let a reviewer adjudicate.--Launchballer 16:09, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Okehocking people
- ... that although the Okehocking people legally owned a tract of land, Pennsylvania colonists built a road through rather than alongside it?
- Source: Becker, Marshall (1986). “The Okehocking Band of Lenape: Cultural Continuities and Accommodations in Southeastern Pennsylvania.” In Strategies For Survival: American Indians in the Eastern United States, edited by Frank W. Porter III. Greenwood Press. pp. 60-61
- ALT1: ... that an early mention of the Okehocking people mistakes their name for that of an unrelated Lenape elder? Source: Becker, Marshall (1986). “The Okehocking Band of Lenape: Cultural Continuities and Accommodations in Southeastern Pennsylvania.” In Strategies For Survival: American Indians in the Eastern United States, edited by Frank W. Porter III. Greenwood Press. p. 46
- ALT2: ... that colonial surveyors in Pennsylvania may have deliberately excluded fertile land from a tract granted to the Okehocking people in 1703? Source: Becker, Marshall J. (1976). "The Okehocking: A remnant band of Delaware Indians". Pennsylvania Archaeologist. 46 (3): p. 36.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Will perform QPQ shortly
Lbal (talk) 06:18, 21 April 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: I think "shortly" has passed Bremps... 04:14, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 22
[edit]Rae Lil Black
- ... that former pornographic film actress Rae Lil Black was featured as a playable character in a turn-based role-playing game?
- ALT1: ... that Rae Lil Black, at one point one of the 20 most popular models on Pornhub, left the adult industry and converted to Islam after visiting Malaysia? Source: sourcing top 20; sourcing conversion to Islam
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tornadoes in Chicago
- Comment: Created by User:SPQR10 and further considerably edited by an IP editor (User:175.138.6.120) before I expanded and moved to mainspace. QPQ to come.
Soulbust (talk) 11:14, 22 April 2025 (UTC).
@Soulburst:The nomination will be closed within 24 hours if a QPQ is not provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:51, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Soulbust: Fixed ping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:51, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
QPQ added; full review needed.--Launchballer 16:18, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Soulbust: Fixed ping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:51, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 23
[edit]Bob Kercher
- ... that for seven years, every American football team Bob Kercher played on went undefeated?
- Source: Hartford Courant
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Anyós
- Comment:
To do QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:10, 30 April 2025 (UTC).
- Added the word "American" to prevent ambiguity (BeanieFan11, I suggest doing this with all your NFL/American football hooks moving forward given our international audience: Wikipedia is not the USpedia). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:04, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Personally, I think if knowing if its American vs. a different football would have no change in the 'interesting-ness' of the hook, it isn't absolutely necessary. I feel like adding "American" sometimes can make hooks too wordy... BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:17, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- The relevant guideline is this:
Make sure to provide any necessary context for your hook; don't assume everyone worldwide is familiar with your subject.
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:23, 7 May 2025 (UTC)- But is specifying "American football" every time really something
necessary
for understanding all (American) football hooks? It'd be remarkable for someone to play for seven straight undefeated teams whether its Australian rules football, association football, or American football. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:47, 7 May 2025 (UTC)- It's more for clarity sake. Remember that, for most countries outside the US, Canada, Australia, or Ireland, "football" refers to soccer. So saying that someone is just a "football" player without specifying which football is going to lead to confusion, especially if the rest of the hook does not make it clear that it's referring to American football. Sticking to just "football" and not "American football" would be a case of US-centrism. Arguably, even association football should not be referred to as just "football" in most cases especially when the context is unclear. Actually, the best way to address the issue is to write hooks that avoid using the word "football" entirely, but if it's unavoidable, then specify which one. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:14, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, this comment is not a case of anti-US bias. If the hook was instead about, for example, Canadian football, Australian rules football, or Gaelic football, I would have made a similar comment. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:53, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- But is specifying "American football" every time really something
- The relevant guideline is this:
Samantha Kane
- ... that the Lady Carbisdale led an unsuccessful takeover bid for Sheffield United F.C. and was later interviewed to become its chief executive? Source: This 2024 Tatler article here and this 1998 Observer article accessed at Gale A76031758
- alt 1: ... that the Lady Carbisdale led an unsuccessful takeover bid for Sheffield United F.C. and, after a gender transition, was interviewed to become its chief executive?
- Reviewed: Leo Franciosi
Bridget (talk) 19:48, 27 April 2025 (UTC). Edited 20:52, 30 April 2025 (UTC).
Sculpture Space (Utica)
- ... that Sculpture Space lets artists create large-scale works in a former metalworking shop?
- Source: https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=asu&AN=505205623&site=eds-live&scope=site , accessible with WP:TWL login
- ALT1: ... that Sculpture Space began when an art student suggested that his instructor rent a metalworking shop? Source: https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=asu&AN=513757543&site=eds-live&scope=site , also accessible through TWL
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kinkaku-ji arson incident
- Comment: It finally stopped raining so I went out and took a photo. Hopefully I didn't screw up the template format.
Apocheir (talk) 17:51, 27 April 2025 (UTC).
James Koh Cher Siang
- ... that James Koh Cher Siang was one of the first nine President's Scholars after Singapore gained independence in 1965?
- Source: This is the first occasion that the scholarships, formerly known as the Yang di-Pertuan Negara Scholarships, are being awarded since Singapore achieved independence in August, 1965.
The winners are...Koh Cher Siang, 20, (Outram Secondary and Raffles Institution)...
"Nine top pupils receive the President's Scholarship". The Straits Times. 24 April 1966. p. 13. https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/digitised/article/straitstimes19660424-1.2.20.41- Reviewed:
BenTanXiaoMing (talk) 02:36, 26 April 2025 (UTC).
Emperor Yingzong of Ming
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- ... that Emperor Yingzong of Ming abolished the practice of concubines committing suicide following the emperor's death?
- Source: Goodrich, L. Carington; Fang, Chaoying (1976). Dictionary of Ming Biography, 1368-1644. New York: Columbia University Press. p. 293. ISBN 0-231-03801-1.
- Reviewed:
Min968 (talk) 17:47, 24 April 2025 (UTC).
GA date, length, close paraphrase check ok. No QPQ needed (only 1 prior DYK). But the hook fact doesn't appear clearly in the article. It mentions (with direct reference) ending practice of suicide of concubines, but not burying alive. Also, the image could be added (File:Ming_Yingzong_(1).jpg). --Soman (talk) 11:25, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Soman: Modified. Min968 (talk) 15:04, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Min968. I don't see any such edit in the article, but an edit to the nomination hook. Is Goodrich & Fang (1976), p. 293 the ref for the new hook fact? --Soman (talk) 21:19, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Soman: Done. Min968 (talk) 15:50, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Min968. I don't see any such edit in the article, but an edit to the nomination hook. Is Goodrich & Fang (1976), p. 293 the ref for the new hook fact? --Soman (talk) 21:19, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Soman: Modified. Min968 (talk) 15:04, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
Historic Site of Anti-Mongolian Struggle
- ... that a rebellion against a peace treaty with the Yuan dynasty operated out of the Historic Site of Anti-Mongolian Struggle on Jeju Island? Source: page 106: "이로부터 31여 개월 동안 제주는 최후까지 항몽활동을 벌였던 삼별초의 주요 거점 지역이 되었다"
- ALT1: ... that the Historic Site of Anti-Mongolian Struggle in South Korea, seen as a patriotic site, has been visited by a North Korean official? Source: "당시 박정희 유신정권은 호국 이데올로기를 앞세우며 군사정권의 정당성을 찾으려고 대대적으로 관련 유적을 찾아내 보수하는 작업을 벌였다....2000년 9월 김정일 북한 국방위원장의 특사로 남쪽에 왔다 제주도를 방문했던 북한의 고 김용순 노동당 비서도 항파두리를 방문해 삼별초의 투쟁을 기리는 글을 방명록에 남겼다."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Christmas carp
- Comment: I was debating nominating this alongside Template:Did you know nominations/Hwanhaejangseong, however I couldn't come up with a clear hook that felt as interesting to readers that covered both articles. However, it seems worth mentioning in case a reviewer feels it would be better.
CMD (talk) 13:09, 24 April 2025 (UTC).
The Rector of Justin
- ... that the choice between The Rector of Justin and Herzog for the 1965 National Book Award for Fiction was described as "a conflict of philosophies" about life itself?
- Source: [The Rector of Justin] was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction and the National Book Award for Fiction, losing to Shirley Ann Grau's The Keeper of the House and Bellow's Herzog, respectively. [26] The Rector of Justin still received positive reviews, but at the end of 1964, Francis Brown (The New York Times) drew a distinction between The Rector of Justin and its awards-season competitor, Bellow's Herzog. He explained that the choice between the two reflected a fork in the road for American literature: "There is a conflict of philosophies: belief that life has a purpose, or if it doesn’t, at least the living of life can have some joy to it, contends with insistence that there is nothing to life but the living of it, and that even that is absurd." [27]
- ALT1: ... that MGM proposed casting Spencer Tracy and Katharine Hepburn for a film adaptation of Louis Auchincloss' novel The Rector of Justin, but the film was never made? Source: Walter Wanger optioned the film rights for MGM. [28] He recruited George Cukor to direct, Samuel A. Taylor to write the screenplay, and Spencer Tracy and Katharine Hepburn to play the leads. However, Tracy was in poor health and the film was never made.Curtis, James (2011). Spencer Tracy. Hutchinson. pp. 821–23. ISBN 978-0-09-178524-6.
- Reviewed:
Namelessposter (talk) 17:45, 23 April 2025 (UTC).
Voluta ebraea
- ... that the Hebrew volute, Voluta ebraea, spawns by laying egg capsules on fan-shaped green algae thalli?
"A total of 40 egg capsules of V. ebraea were found attached to the green calcareous alga Udotia occidentalis A.Gepp and E.S. Gepp (Fig. 1 A and B) in the same place that V. ebraea adults were found (1 to 2 meters depth in sea grass beds off Paracurú beach, Ceará state, Brasil)."
"This species is known to lay egg capsules only on the calcareous green algae Udotea occidentalis (Fig. 1B), "...- Reviewed:
Daniel Cavallari (talk) 13:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC).
Article is new enough and long enough, recently promoted to GA. I've made a small change in the hook ("Hebrew" is always capitalised). All material is cited to what appear to be reliable sources, and I can see no copyvio or BLP concerns: all images have appropriate licenses. The hook is interesting, though I don't think it fully appears in the article: we have
the attachment of V. ebraea capsules to algae, rather than hard substrates like shells, represents a novel ecological observation within the family Volutidae
, but I don't see "fan-shaped green algae thalli" anywhere, or indeed in the quotations pulled from the sources here.QPQ needs to be done.UndercoverClassicist T·C 17:30, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Actually, this appears to be the nominator's fifth nomination, so he does not require a QPQ. However, it is his last freebie, so his next nomination will need one. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:11, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ah yes, well spotted -- it does say so in the template. @Daniel Cavallari: we should therefore we good to go once the hook is in the article (and fully sourced). If it's already there and I'm just missing it, could you point me towards it? UndercoverClassicist T·C 06:29, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist:Thank you! I've just added it to the Life cycle section! Daniel Cavallari (talk) 11:48, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ah yes, well spotted -- it does say so in the template. @Daniel Cavallari: we should therefore we good to go once the hook is in the article (and fully sourced). If it's already there and I'm just missing it, could you point me towards it? UndercoverClassicist T·C 06:29, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Actually, this appears to be the nominator's fifth nomination, so he does not require a QPQ. However, it is his last freebie, so his next nomination will need one. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:11, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 24
[edit]Boyd Jones
- ... that when being visited by an NFL scout, college football player Boyd Jones was acting as a coach since the normal coach was missing?
- Source: GB Press Gazette ("Packer scout Tom Tipps recalls that when he went to see Jones, the offensive line coach at the school was missing and Jones, a four-year starter at tackle, was help-ing coach the younger players.")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Torta caprese
- Comment:
To do QPQ within a day or two.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:28, 1 May 2025 (UTC).
David Viaene
- ... that in college, football player David Viaene was able to run a mile in equipment faster than some of his team's wide receivers, even though he weighed 285 pounds (129 kg)?
- Source: Post Crescent
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Juberri
- Comment:
To do QPQ within 24 hours.Credit Gonzo fan2007 for coming up with the hook.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:23, 1 May 2025 (UTC).
Jim Lankas
- ... that when tackling, "Jarring Jim" was "mean, very mean, very mean"?
- ALT1: ... that Jim Lankas began wrestling in Wichita, Kansas, after someone at a fight did not show up, and Lankas decided to take the wrestler's place? Source: Wichita Beacon
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dimitar Agura
- Comment:
To do QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:17, 1 May 2025 (UTC).
Earl Ohlgren
- ... that it was thought Earl Ohlgren broke his neck during a football game, but he actually was just experiencing shock?
- Source: Star Tribune / Evening Courier
- ALT1: ... that during his short career, Earl Ohlgren was a Chief, a Bomber, and a Packer? Source: PFA
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Petre Cișmigiu
- Comment:
To do QPQ within 24 hours.Credit Gonzo fan2007 for coming up with the hooks.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:24, 28 April 2025 (UTC).
- Will get QPQ done later today (Wednesday). BeanieFan11 (talk) 04:09, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Harry Wunsch
- ... that while playing football for the University of Notre Dame, Harry Wunsch was the only local player on the team?
- Source: p. 42 in pdf (or 40) - he was the only player from South Bend, Notre Dame's location - I think that would meet the description "only local player"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/PWHL Seattle
- Comment:
To do QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:14, 28 April 2025 (UTC).
- Will get QPQ done later today (Wednesday). BeanieFan11 (talk) 04:08, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
List of Toronto Marlies head coaches
- ...
that despite many deep playoff runs, no Marlies head coach has won the AHL coach of the year?
- Source: https://theahl.com/mediaguide Page 23
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Surprised this team has been so great but no results for the coaches ):
TBJ10RH (talk) 15:09, 28 April 2025 (UTC).
I see no indication here that WP:NLIST is met. Without such, an WP:AFD might be necessary. Flibirigit (talk) 16:47, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think it's an WP:AFD but perhaps the sources are a bit vague, which is alright. I will try to look for more sources. TBJ10RH (talk) 18:33, 28 April 2025 (UTC).
- I have struck ALT0 since it does not contain any link to List of Toronto Marlies head coaches, and it focuses unduly on a negative aspect. A new hook is needed here, plus much stronger sourcing to meet LISTN. Flibirigit (talk) 00:15, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think it's an WP:AFD but perhaps the sources are a bit vague, which is alright. I will try to look for more sources. TBJ10RH (talk) 18:33, 28 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 25
[edit]Edgar Matobato
- ... that former hitman Edgar Matobato fled the Philippines with a fake passport while posing as a gardener?
- ALT1: ... that the Catholic Church hid hitman and whistleblower Edgar Matobato for years before exfiltrating him out of the Philippines? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/05/world/asia/philippines-hit-man-confession.html
- ALT2: ... that former hitman Edgar Matobato was the first to blow the whistle on the existence of the Davao Death Squad? Source: https://www.rappler.com/philippines/edgar-matobato-duterte-whistleblower-safe-after-fleeing-country/
- ALT3: ... that hitman and whistleblower Edgar Matobato left the Philippine witness protection program right before his alleged former boss became the country's president? Source: https://pcij.org/2025/01/17/the-making-of-edgar-matobato/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: It's kinda hard to balance between entertaining and accusatory. Main hook is safest, but I think ALT3 is most engaging. Worth noting that everyone involved here is a living person, so BLP applies.
Chlod (say hi!) 20:06, 1 May 2025 (UTC).
Matthew Wild
- ...
that when Matthew Wild directed Wagner's Tannhäuser, he made its main character gay?- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wang Huning
- Comment: Driveby nom per tipoff at ERRORS.
Launchballer 17:27, 1 May 2025 (UTC).
- What I said on ERRORS was that I was afraid something like this would happen. How is that interesting? I don't believe he would have been awarded "best staging of the year" for something that harmless. Matthew told a complex (fictive but based on real lives) story of a man fleeing the Nazis, becoming a Pulitzer Prize-winning author and professor of literature in California c. 1960, suffering a creative crisis and leaving everything, returning and then coming out causing a scandal at that time. This complex story-telling in analogy to the medieval character in a crisis and expelled by society (invented in the 19th century) won him the award, but is too complex for DYK rules. Therefore I intentionally did not nominate. Readers might rather be interested in Wild coming from from South Africa and the production at the Frankfurt Opera, again voted "best opera house". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that critics described the South African director Matthew Wild's production of Tannhäuser at the Frankfurt Opera as a "staging of the year"? (Source: BR Klassik: "Several productions have won the title of "Performance of the Year": Richard Wagner's "Tannhäuser" by Matthew Wild (Frankfurt Opera), etc.." (using Google Translate). Note: the WP article's editors have translated it as "staging of the year", which is likely to be more accurate than Google). Storye book (talk) 09:42, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- That's more to my liking, but it isn't just some critics, but an annual award from Opernwelt that gets to the news. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:51, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- like this --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:53, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1a: ... that Opernwelt gave the South African director Matthew Wild's production of Tannhäuser at the Frankfurt Opera its Staging of the Year award? Storye book (talk) 10:13, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that critics described the South African director Matthew Wild's production of Tannhäuser at the Frankfurt Opera as a "staging of the year"? (Source: BR Klassik: "Several productions have won the title of "Performance of the Year": Richard Wagner's "Tannhäuser" by Matthew Wild (Frankfurt Opera), etc.." (using Google Translate). Note: the WP article's editors have translated it as "staging of the year", which is likely to be more accurate than Google). Storye book (talk) 09:42, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
Chocolate crinkle
- ... that the chocolate crinkle (pictured) was invented by Helen Fredell from Saint Paul, Minnesota, and its recipe was first published in a Betty Crocker cookbook during the early 1950s?
- Source: #1: "The first chocolate crinkle cookie recipe can be traced to a woman named Helen Fredell in St. Paul, Minnesota in the early 1950s. The recipe was originally published in a Betty Crocker cookbook, which explains that it was a cookie Mrs. Fredell served in her home, and guests couldn’t resist taking the recipe home and trying it for themselves." Betty Crocker; #2: "Credit for the original chocolate crinkle cookie recipe goes to Helen Fredell of St. Paul, Minnesota; it was published in a Betty Crocker cookbook in the early 1950s." Taste of Home
- Reviewed:
MaPhilIndo (talk) 00:00, 30 April 2025 (UTC).
- I'm convinced there is a lot of room for improvement in this hook. Most types of food were invented by someone and ended up in cookbooks. (t · c) buidhe 22:36, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: How do either of these options sound?
- ALT1 ... that the chocolate crinkle (pictured) was the subject of a study by the Philippines' Department of Science and Technology?
- ALT1a ... that Philippines' Department of Science and Technology made a study on the chocolate crinkle (pictured)?
- ALT2 ... that although the chocolate crinkle (pictured) was invented in Minnesota, it is more popular in the Philippines?
- ALT1/ALT1a is technically imprecise as it is not the DOST itself that made a study about it but rather one of the agencies under it: I will leave it to you if ALT1/ALT1a remain suitable or not. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- I prefer ALT2. ALT2 is better than the other ALTs. MaPhilIndo (talk) 07:40, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: How do either of these options sound?
Everyone Hates Elon
- ... that Everyone Hates Elon let members of the public destroy a Tesla Model S to protest against Elon Musk and raise money for food banks?
- Source:
1) McCusker, Kate (10 April 2025). Sledgehammer-wielding Musk critics smash up Tesla in London art project. The Guardian. Archived from the original on 10 April 2025. Quote: "Protective helmets were donned and sledgehammers wielded as Elon Musk critics vented their frustration at the Tesla boss and billionaire by smashing up a disused Tesla bound for the scrapheap. ... The destroyed electric vehicle, which retails for about £14,000, will be auctioned in the next few weeks, with all proceeds going to food bank charities."
2) Campbell, Hebe (11 April 2025). Tesla smashed to pieces in London protest against Elon Musk. The Independent. Archived from the original on 11 April 2025. Quote: "A Tesla was destroyed in London by protesters targeting billionaire Elon Musk and his ties to Donald Trump on Thursday, 10 April. The second-hand car, originally destined for the scrapheap, was smashed as part of a 'public art piece' according to the group Everyone Hates Elon, who organised the stunt. The group says it offers people a way to 'safely and legally' destroy a Tesla. The installation will be auctioned to raise money for local food banks."
- ALT1: ... that Everyone Hates Elon let members of the public destroy a Tesla Model S to protest against the political activities of Elon Musk and raise money for food banks? Source: see above.
- ALT2: ... that Everyone Hates Elon created a public art installation allowing participants to destroy a Tesla Model S to raise money for food banks? Source: see above.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my first DYK nomination, so not very confident! More than happy for the hooks to be reworded etc as needed. I've also reached out (per WP:REQFREE) to Everyone Hates Elon regarding images for the article; they have said they will release some of their images under CC and upload them to Wikimedia Commons, so depending on timescale and relevance of available images, an image could be included alongside this DYK if it's accepted.
Pineapple Storage (talk) 15:08, 27 April 2025 (UTC).
- This is not a review of the nomination, but I do think we should be aware that whatever the hook is, there is a good chance that Elon gets on Twitter and writes about the hook, and then it makes the news. There's two things to note: first, future commenters/reviewers, your behavior in this very discussion may be scrutinized. That doesn't mean "walk on eggshells", but it does mean "think twice before you click publish changes". Second, we should notify—not ask permission from—the WMF press team (comcom
wikimedia.org) with ample warning. It's the right thing to do; they should not be blindsided by this. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:06, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
Park No. 474
- ... that to meet funding requirements, the Illinois Institute of Technology deeded a 6x9 foot granite slab to the city (pictured), creating Chicago’s smallest park?
- Source: "The sculpture was made possible by the B.F. Ferguson Fund of the Art Institute of Chicago and major donors such as Daniel J. Terra and Victor J. Axelrod. Because the Ferguson Fund is devoted only to artworks on public lands, the Illinois Institute of Technology deeded the Chicago Park District the nine-foot by six-foot site on which it is located. The project gave the site, which is officially known as Park 474, the status of Chicago’s tiniest park." https://www.chicagoparkdistrict.com/parks-facilities/man-bench-artwork
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Added on suggestion of another editor. This is my first DYK submission for an article I wrote.
Shotgunheist 💬 17:20, 26 April 2025 (UTC).
- I believe placing the "pictured" tag works better after the second clause, like this: that to meet funding requirements, the Illinois Institute of Technology deeded a 6x9 foot granite slab to the city (pictured), creating Chicago’s smallest park? fixed in submission
Shotgunheist 💬 17:25, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 26
[edit]Warren Kilbourne
- ... that Warren Kilbourne led a strike against a professional football team because he was not paid for participation in a charity game?
- Source: Kenosha News
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gammarelli
- Comment:
To do QPQ within a day or two.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:14, 2 May 2025 (UTC).
Pseudo-Evodius
- ... that in a homily written by Pseudo-Evodius, Jesus and the Devil compete in a fishing tournament in the desert?
- Source: Sourced to a physical book, but for an online-accessible source:
- ALT1: ... that in a homily written by Pseudo-Evodius, Jesus and the Devil compete in a fishing tournament in the desert, perhaps metaphorically as "fishing for men"? Source: Pettipiece, Timothy (2020). "A Homily on the Life of Jesus and His Love for the Apostles: A New Translation and Introduction". In Burke, Tony (ed.). New Testament Apocrypha: More Noncanonical Scriptures. Vol. 2. pp. 23-40.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Alchemist Code
- Comment: Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know/Archive_205#Should_WP:DYKFICTION_apply_to_mythology,_religious_stories,_and_folklore? was closed without an actual resolution, so I guess who knows. I prefer the first hook as the catchiest. I've included ALT1 as a sop if someone wants to really object as including elements of religious stories as being against DYKFICTION (but I don't think this is necessary, and think it's "hookier" to not include an explanation).
SnowFire (talk) 20:35, 27 April 2025 (UTC).
Seitaro Hattori
- ... that Seitaro Hattori's election in 2021 has unified the three factions of Liberal Democratic Party in Fukuoka Prefecture for the first time despite being independent?
- Source: this is the article before the expansion (157 characters (23 words)). Also, I don't know how to phrase this hook. Open for suggestion.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Vatican.va
- Comment: NHK, Asahi Shimbun.
Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:29, 26 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 27
[edit]Tommy Akingbesote, Kyonte Hamilton
- ... that football players Tommy Akingbesote and Kyonte Hamilton grew up in the same community, play the same position, and were both selected in the seventh round of the 2025 NFL draft?
- Source: NYT (paywalled - can email you the password if you need to verify it)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Richard L. Morrill & Template:Did you know nominations/Margono Soekarjo (1/2)
- Comment: To do QPQs within two days.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:46, 4 May 2025 (UTC).
John P. Morris
- ... that John P. Morris won his first union strike by putting live pigeons into fur coats?
- Source: Bulik, Mark (2002-05-02). "John P. Morris, 76, Teamsters Vice President". Archived from the original on 2022-04-01. Retrieved 2025-04-27.
- ALT1: ... that John P. Morris was dismissed as vice president of his labor union for using funds to stockpile weapons? Source: Bulik, Mark (2002-05-02). "John P. Morris, 76, Teamsters Vice President". Archived from the original on 2022-04-01. Retrieved 2025-04-27.
- Reviewed:
Roasted (talk) 17:24, 27 April 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review, but Earwig is picking up some CLOP. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:26, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
2025 Free Student Union election at Tribhuvan University
- ... that when the deadline for the 2025 Free Student Union election at Tribhuvan University lapsed, elections had not yet been held in 15 out of 62 constituent campuses?
Soman (talk) 15:20, 27 April 2025 (UTC).
Date, size, neutrality, copyviospotcheck, etc. all fine. There are, however, two problems. First, the hook is pretty boring, although I cannot come up with anything more interesting. Closing admin - or double checking one, whom we seem to have more these times - can offer a 3O if necessary. More serious is the article itself, which I've tagged for notability and started a talk discussion (frankly, I feel this should go to AfD to gauge a wider consensus). Sorry, Soman - your work is usually stellar - but this time I feel we need to think more about this one. PS. The two problems above are somewhat connected: it's hard to come up with an interesting hook on a uneventful election that itself may not even be notable (a student union election at a Nepalese university, with that union not even having an article right now).--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:46, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
Paul Graham (television producer)
- ... that Paul Graham insisted on "a big game feel" for his "baby"?
- Reviewed: Light Weight Air Warning Radar and Waterloo Column
- Comment: I volunteer two QPQ credits for one nomination, to help reduce the backlog of nominations without reviews.
Flibirigit (talk) 12:18, 27 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 28
[edit]Isabel Garcés
- ... that Isabel Garcés was a regular in Marisol's films, providing a comical counterpoint to the young actress?
- ALT1: ... that Isabel Garcés had a decades-long theater career, but is primarily remembered for her being a regular in Marisol's films, providing a comical counterpoint to the young protagonist?
- ALT2: ... that Spanish theatre actress Isabel Garcés was a regular in Marisol's films, providing a comical counterpoint to the young protagonist?
- ALT3: ... that Spanish actress Isabel Garcés starred in many musical "child prodigy" comedies of the 1960s, providing a comical counterpoint to child protagonists such as Marisol and Pili and Mili?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1982 Los Angeles Rams–Green Bay Packers game
Moscow Connection (talk) 23:57, 5 May 2025 (UTC).
Leander Wiegand
- ... that German American football player Leander Wiegand received a scholarship to play in college in the U.S., even though the school had never seen him play?
- Source: ELF ("Leander is the first athlete from Germany to receive a full scholarship to Division I without the college ever seeing him play before.")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Riverine rabbit
- Comment:
To do QPQ within a day or two.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 5 May 2025 (UTC).
Michael Basinger
- ... that after playing in the NFL, Michael Basinger played "honky tonks"?
- Source: Sun-Star ("Meanwhile, he writes songs and plays 'honky tonks' in Nashville for $30 a night, waiting for his chance at stardom.")
- ALT1: ... that football player Michael Basinger "went bananas" after learning he was selected for an all-star game? Source: quote from Tribune
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2024 European Athletics Championships – Mixed 4 × 400 metres relay
- Comment:
To do QPQ within a day or two.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:10, 5 May 2025 (UTC).
Nun will der Lenz uns grüßen
- ... that "Nun will der Lenz uns grüßen" (Now Spring wants to greet us) is a song with text freely transcribed after Neidhart von Reuental in 1878 which became a popular Volkslied in the 1920s (pictured)? Source: several
- Reviewed: Kentuck Knob
Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 5 May 2025 (UTC). I will review Template:Did you know nominations/Kentuck Knob. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Passing comment: Hi Gerda, nice article once again. But I'm afraid most readers will have no idea what is going on in the hook. Bremps... 17:01, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Asking 4meter4 if he could propose a new hook, or possibly expand the article to include additional possible hook options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:23, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Bremps: Does anything in the article stand out as a possible hook suggestion? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:45, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- This song was believed to been medieval but actually was a 19th century paraphrase, which became popular with the Youth movement (1920s) and - most surprising - is still popular today. Sorry that it is complex. I see a double quirkiness in it - the belief that is was medieval (but still popular today) and the unexpected interest in the 1920s (but still popular today). When a topic has a complex history why not speak/teach about that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- That information about it being a paraphrase is not currently in the article. If it's added to the article and a clear non-technical hook based on it is proposed, I think it could work. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- In the article: "Ströse published a poem collection in 1878, Deutsche Minne aus alter Zeit – ausgewählte Lieder der Minnesänger des Mittelalters, presenting medieval poems in his free transcription." - bolding by me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Trying to please, I changed the verb to "paraphrased" in the sentence regarding this paticular song, one from that collection. Please help wording a hook, - perhaps you are able to word that for a long time it was still believed to be medieval. The 1920 youth movement should be present to connect to the image, also it seems worth knowing that for decades, the song remained in the background, but then hit some nerve. Please let's get this up soon, or spring will be over. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0a: ... that "Nun will der Lenz uns grüßen" (Now Spring wants to greet us) is a 1878 song, paraphrasing a medieval poem, which became popular with the 1920s youth movement (pictured)?
- That's a bit hard to read. How does the following reword sound? Special thanks to MallardTV for the suggestion, courtesy ping to Bremps too:
- ALT0b: ... that the 1878 German spring song "Nun will der Lenz uns grüßen" (score pictured) was inspired by a medieval poem and gained fame in the 1920s youth movement?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:51, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comprehensible and interesting. Let's roll. Bremps... 02:56, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- That's a bit hard to read. How does the following reword sound? Special thanks to MallardTV for the suggestion, courtesy ping to Bremps too:
- That information about it being a paraphrase is not currently in the article. If it's added to the article and a clear non-technical hook based on it is proposed, I think it could work. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- This song was believed to been medieval but actually was a 19th century paraphrase, which became popular with the Youth movement (1920s) and - most surprising - is still popular today. Sorry that it is complex. I see a double quirkiness in it - the belief that is was medieval (but still popular today) and the unexpected interest in the 1920s (but still popular today). When a topic has a complex history why not speak/teach about that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
National Windrush Monument
- ... that the National Windrush Monument features a family standing on a pile of suitcases and "surveying their new country"?
- Source: "One of the shortlisted artists, Basil Watson, proposed a family group climbing on their luggage and surveying their new country." https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/14/shortlist-revealed-for-planned-1m-windrush-monument-in-london
- Reviewed:
the wub "?!" 09:02, 4 May 2025 (UTC).
Caressing My Hibernating Bear
- ... that while working on the manga series Caressing My Hibernating Bear, a bear had appeared in the creator's neighborhood?
lullabying (talk) 02:52, 4 May 2025 (UTC).
- Made a slight change to the hook for clarification purposes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:24, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Lonnie Donegan Showcase
- ... that Lonnie Donegan's 1956 album Lonnie Donegan Showcase entered both the UK albums chart and UK singles chart?
- Source: Humphries, Patrick (2012). "Chapter 10". Lonnie Donegan and the Birth of British Rock & Roll. Hull: Biteback Publishing. ISBN 9781849544764. Retrieved 25 April 2025. / https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/2950/lonnie-donegan/
- Reviewed:
TangoTizerWolfstone (talk) 13:59, 30 April 2025 (UTC).
Octavia (novel)
- ... that Jilly Cooper based one of her characters in Octavia on a former lover? Source: Hanks, Robert, "First Lady of Rutshire", The Guardian (1959–2003); 18 March 1996; ProQuest Historical Newspapers: The Guardian (1821–2003) and The Observer (1791–2003) pg. A4
- ALT1: ... that the novel Octavia was filmed for television in 2007, but has not yet been released? Source: This article https://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/feb/12/itv-rests-octavia describes it not being released in 2009. This forum post from 2010 states there's no release date https://filmboards.com/t/Tamsin-Egerton/When-are-we-going-to-see-'Octavia'-on-ITV%3F-2722614/ and in all the other listing locations, its there but with no link for watching it. IMDB says it was released in 2009, but since that's user-generated I think that might be a mistake.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bechbretha
- Comment: The QPQ is for a multi-article nomination, and the specific review for this DYK is for Críth Gablach
Lajmmoore (talk) 08:48, 29 April 2025 (UTC).
- I'm uncomfortable with your basis for stating that the film hasn't been released yet: absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Does this count as a review? DS (talk) 19:17, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Me too tbh - I did see the Letterboxd review, and it is from 2021 but I am still skeptical, as I can't find a reference to it being screened 2010 to today and there would be digital traces, beyond that single review. I'm happy to scratch the ALT as I do realise absence of evidence isn't evidence! It is a mystery though: the Times says it was broadcast in 2009 - but they why doesn't the person in the forum linked above (who posted three times) know that? This just increases my scepticism. Maybe I should write to ITV! (But not for this DYK nomination) Lajmmoore (talk) 22:50, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Jilly Cooper's official site has an "ask Jilly a question" form... DS (talk) 04:29, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- the detective work begins ... I've messaged, but let's not hold up the DYK, feel free to strike ALT1 Lajmmoore (talk) 14:35, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Jilly Cooper's official site has an "ask Jilly a question" form... DS (talk) 04:29, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
How about ALT2: that a 1993 reprint of the 1977 romance novel Octavia sold 100,000 copies? DS (talk) 16:03, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- fine by me, hopefully another editor will come and review it! Lajmmoore (talk) 19:54, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
My Dinner with Adolf
- ... that Kid Rock brokered the dinner meeting between Bill Maher and Donald Trump that Larry David satirized in "My Dinner with Adolf"?
- Source: Maher informed listeners that the musician—and recent Real Time and Club Random guest—Kid Rock invited him to meet the president. “Kid Rock was here a couple of weeks ago, and he said, ‘I want you to meet Trump,'” Maher explained. “He said, ‘I’m gonna take you to the White House.’ So now we’re gonna do that.” and I also understood Larry’s intent in writing this piece. We had spoken about American politics and how some on the left and in the center think it’s important to talk and engage with President Trump. Like many people, Larry listened to Bill Maher talk about his recent dinner with Trump; Bill, a comedian Larry respects, said in a monologue on his Max show that he found the president to be “gracious and measured” compared with the man who attacks him on Truth Social. Larry’s piece is not equating Trump with Hitler. It is about seeing people for who they really are and not losing sight of that.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Samar Abu Elouf
- Comment: open to suggestions for alt hooks
Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 03:13, 29 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 29
[edit]Italian brainrot
- ... that Italian surrealist AI-generated images of creatures are popular on TikTok in Europe?
- Reviewed:
Thegoofhere (talk) 19:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review, but I'd like to point out some things for the benefit of the first-time nominator here. The article in question is linked in bold from the hook, which I've done. Thegoofhere, there is also a failed verification tag that will need addressing before the page is passed. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 22:58, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- The failed verification tag has been remedied, albeit with a questionable source. Ca talk to me! 09:48, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
Animals in War (book)
- ... that the book Animals in War by Jilly Cooper inspired the campaign that led to the Animals in War Memorial (pictured)? Source: "following the publication of Jilly Cooper's Animals in War there was a campaign that resulted in the design and creation of the Hyde Park memorial! https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Popular_Experience_and_Cultural_Represen/6jI9DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=animals+in+war+jilly+cooper&pg=PA33&printsec=frontcover
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bechbretha
- Comment: * The QPQ link is for a multi-article nomination, but the exact review for this QPQ is for O'Davoren's Glossary
- I didn't link the Animals in War Memorial to avoid WP:DYKDIVERT
Lajmmoore (talk) 10:01, 1 May 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 30
[edit]Saigon Port FC
- ... that Saigon Port FC won the 2001–02 V-League, but their success was short-lived as they faced relegation in the next season?
- ALT1: ... that Saigon Port FC won the 2001–02 V-League; However, in the following season, they ended up getting relegation? Source: https://dantri.com.vn/the-thao/clb-tphcm-doi-ten-vaxuong-hang-1247860096.htm
- Reviewed:
- Comment: First nomination
KhoaNguyen1 (talk) 09:01, 5 May 2025 (UTC).
- Passing by, this struck me as a decent wording of the hook: ALT2 ... that Saigon Port FC was relegated from the V-League a year after they were league champions? BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:28, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
I was about to review this, but the article is in dire need of a copyediting. Pinging our resident soccer expert SounderBruce to take a look at the article, or perhaps asking for help from sports expert BeanieFan11 in helping copyedit the article. FWIW, if this is to proceed, ALT2 sounds okay, but it might be a good idea to either link or explain "relegated" for the benefit of our non-soccer fan readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:40, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- This seems to be a content split from Ho Chi Minh City FC and honestly could just be merged back into that article. SounderBruce 18:41, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ping SounderBruce, I think Saigon Port FC should be split from HCMCT FC and have its main article, as this club was regarded as one of the
bestmost notable clubs in Vietnam around the 90s, many sources that talk about this club before and after it dissolved [29][30][31][32], what do you think? KhoaNguyen1 (talk) 05:13, 12 May 2025 (UTC)- This doesn't seem like a case of a phoenix club or spinoff, and if Ho Chi Minh City FC is claiming pre-2009 titles then they are a continuation and thus would include the full history of Saigon Port FC in their article. I won't be able to provide further input, as I am very busy, so I'll be dropping out of this conversation. SounderBruce 05:20, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ping SounderBruce, I think Saigon Port FC should be split from HCMCT FC and have its main article, as this club was regarded as one of the
- This seems to be a content split from Ho Chi Minh City FC and honestly could just be merged back into that article. SounderBruce 18:41, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
Nitrification
- ... that Did you know the new electrifying waste water treatment technique for the removal of harmful nitrogenous species?
- Reviewed:
DJY009 (talk) 21:46, 1 May 2025 (UTC).
- Just commenting here DJY009, but you need to include a link to the article you are nominating for DYK in the hook. For example, "...that Nitrification is a new electrifying waste water treatment technique for the removal of harmful nitrogenous species?". HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:22, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
Mrityunjoy Banerjee (economist)
... that the 1972-1977 West Bengal state government Minister of Education Mrityunjoy Banerjee was a University of Pittsburgh alumnus?
- Source: Kanhaya Lal Gupta, Educationists in India. Tradesman & Men India, 1963. p. 26
Soman (talk) 11:07, 30 April 2025 (UTC).
- @Soman: Comment: I do not mean to seem rude, but is there anything extrodinary/unexpected/intriguing about that fact? Per WP:DYKINT, the thought of an indian politician who studied in the US does not make me want to read the article as it seems mundane and unnotable. GGOTCC 00:43, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Today this could seem quite mundane, but as of 1972 it wasn't. It needs to be seen in its wider context, West Bengal was 1972 engulfed in conflicts - Naxalbari uprising, an election largely seen as rigged, strike, refugee crisis from Bangladesh Liberation War. A few of other, older Bengali politicians had been educated in the UK, but Indian politicians studying in the US would have been rare at the time. --Soman (talk) 11:07, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have to agree with GGOTCC here. I do not see the hook as currently written as unusual or interesting, and the fact that you have to explain why the hook is interesting here all the more makes it not meet WP:DYKINT. DYKINT means that hooks should more-or-less be self-evident in their interestingness and should not rely on the nominator explaining why it is interesting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:54, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Soman: Per the above I have struck the hook as not meeting DYKINT. Please propose alternative angles. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:55, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Soman: The nomination may be closed as unsuccessful if no alternative hook is proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:47, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Soman: Per the above I have struck the hook as not meeting DYKINT. Please propose alternative angles. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:55, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have to agree with GGOTCC here. I do not see the hook as currently written as unusual or interesting, and the fact that you have to explain why the hook is interesting here all the more makes it not meet WP:DYKINT. DYKINT means that hooks should more-or-less be self-evident in their interestingness and should not rely on the nominator explaining why it is interesting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:54, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 1
[edit]Dalton Old Pump House
- ... that the Boiler Room at Dalton Old Pump House is presently lit by more than fifty chandeliers?
- Source: "Enter this amazing room via our grand staircase, you are greeted with over 50 chandeliers which will simply take your breath away." [33]
- Reviewed:
Barabbas1312 (talk) 18:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC).
Joanna Johnston
- ... that Jessica Rabbit's costume designer wanted a fully sequinned dress but it was too expensive to animate?
- Source: Johnston's original design for a fully sequinned dress was too expensive to animate, so it was changed to a solid red colour gown [Costume Design in TV and Film, Nancy Capaccio]
- ALT1: ... that Forrest Gump's blue shirt was custom-made to look cheap? Source: "I wanted all the plaid mismatching and one side of the collar slightly longer than the other so it looks cheap" - quoted in Los Angeles Times article, 1994.
- Reviewed:
FilmCostumes (talk) 14:51, 7 May 2025 (UTC).
- Hooks need to mention the article you want to link to. ALT0: ... that Joanna Johnston wanted Jessica Rabbit to wear a fully sequinned dress, but it was too expensive to animate? ALT1a: ... that Joanna Johnston designed Forrest Gump's blue shirt to look cheap? DS (talk) 16:30, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
Franklin Sonn
- ... that Franklin Sonn was the first black South African ambassador to the United States of America?
- Source: Ebony Magazine, December 1995 "Franklin Sonn is first black South African ambassador in Washington"
- ALT1: ... that Franklin Sonn was a regular correspondent of Nelson Mandela during his imprisonment? Source: Ebony Magazine, December 1995 "His personal contributions to the struggle did not go unrecognized by future President Mandela, who in a letter written from his prison cell to Sonn in the late 1980s applauded his efforts. The two remained in regular contact throughout those difficult years."
- ALT2: ... that despite marching alongside Desmond Tutu, Franklin Sonn only joined the African National Congress after the fall of Apartheid? Source: Ebony Magazine, December 1995 "And I never hesitated to lead marches with Archbishop Tutu" … "Even though Sonn did not join the ANC until much later"
- Reviewed: [[]]
- Comment: Maybe one could combine hook 1 and hook 2.
Slashme (talk) 10:19, 2 May 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on May 2
[edit]James Bunbury White
- ... that the first North Carolina senator from Columbus County, James Bunbury White, was the founder of Whitesville, North Carolina?
- Source: Wilcox, George W. (May 1993). "Profile of an Irish Lady: Bridget Day Beatty" (PDF). Lower Cape Fear Historical Society, Inc. Bulletin. XXXVIII (3). Wilmington, North Carolina.
"Chap. LX" (PDF). Carolana.
"Cape Fear Pride Whiteville: Founder James B. White". WWAY3. March 5, 2009.
Aneirinn (talk) 17:47, 6 May 2025 (UTC).
French Girls
- ... that French girls premiered on a livestream?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Downstate (play)
- Comment: Driveby nom; the hook is intended for WP:DYKAPRIL. (I had planned on using the QPQ on a driveby nom of N'Dea Davenport (album), but ended up reverting the expansion and more.)
Launchballer 21:39, 5 May 2025 (UTC).
100 men versus a gorilla
- ... that 100 men can beat a gorilla?
- ALT1: ... that people think a single gorilla can kill 100 men? Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2025/04/30/experts-discuss-100-men-vs-gorilla/83367073007/
- Reviewed:
Thegoofhere (talk) 19:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC).
DYK is not for any random fact—it's to direct readers to relatively new articles on Wikipedia. Your hook needs to contain a link to an article that is new enough to be eligible for the "Did you know" section. See WP:DYKNEW for the eligibility requirements. Mz7 (talk) 21:53, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- I've added links to the article in question nowThegoofhere (talk) 22:09, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that to defeat a gorilla, 100 men may "envelop the gorilla and create a human straightjacket"? Bremps... 01:24, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
Full review needed.--Launchballer 21:43, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- As fun as the article is, I'm not sure it can survive AfD. I'll leave that to a reviewer though. Bremps... 01:01, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that to defeat a gorilla, 100 men may "envelop the gorilla and create a human straightjacket"? Bremps... 01:24, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
Smashing Frank
- ... that Smashing Frank is the first Hong Kong film produced through crowdfunding?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that the film Smashing Frank's title pays tribute to Leonardo DiCaprio's character Frank Abagnale from Catch Me If You Can? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that the screenplay for Smashing Frank was developed from an assignment in a filmmaking course? Source: [3]
- ALT3: ... that Fruit Chan was slated to produce the crowdfunded film Smashing Frank, but had to exit because the limited budget could not cover him? Source: [4]
- ALT4: ... that the director of Smashing Frank cited Chris Stuckmann's Shelby Oaks as inspiration for using crowdfunding to finance the film's production? Source: [5]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kwek Leng Joo
—👑PRINCE of EREBOR📜 14:32, 2 May 2025 (UTC).
References
- ^ 吳霆俊 (11 April 2025). "搗破法蘭克|談善言林家熙楊偲泳大爆兒時反叛史 岑珈其為易角疑雲解畫". Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese). Retrieved 1 May 2025.
《搗破法蘭克》作為首部眾籌成功的電影,有望為電影發展殺出新血路。
[As the first successfully crowdfunded film, Smashing Frank is expected to pave a new path for film development.] - ^ 鄭思珩 (7 May 2022). "《搗破法蘭克》以眾籌抗主流 奪回創作話語權【專訪】". The Culturist (in Chinese). Retrieved 1 May 2025.
劇名中的「法蘭克」源自電影《捉智雙雄》(Catch Me If You Can)中狄卡比奧所飾演的少年詐欺犯法蘭克(Frank Abagnale)
[The "Frank" in the title comes from the character Frank Abagnale, a young con artist played by [Leonardo] DiCaprio in the film Catch Me If You Can.] - ^ 馮曉彤 (30 April 2022). "專訪《搗破法蘭克》編導蔡康凝——眾籌拍戲,講香港年輕人的憤怒與反抗". Hong Kong Inmedia (in Chinese). Retrieved 1 May 2025.
《搗破法蘭克》最初是導演班的功課,經過導師陳果多番指點修改,最終在2019年頭寫成。
[Smashing Frank was originally a course assignment for the director, and after multiple revisions guided by mentor Fruit Chan, it was finally completed in early 2019.] - ^ 嚴嘉栢 (18 April 2025). "《搗破法蘭克》換角、資訊發布惹議 眾籌開戲變數多 「不敢說是一條新路」". Ming Pao (in Chinese). Retrieved 1 May 2025.
2022年眾籌時,陳果陪同蔡康凝接受媒體訪問,並表示擔任監製;惟今年3月公布上映消息後,才發現監製不再是陳果。蔡康凝解釋,陳果在開拍前一星期仍給予意見,幫忙修改劇本,「如果我們本身籌了整個項目450萬(港元)的話,我們找阿果(陳果),其實他就可以完全掌控這件事。但是到了現在是一半一半,如果我們想阿果做監製,我們都需要出份糧給他,但是錢不夠,還有那時候阿果有很多其他commitment」。
[During the crowdfunding in 2022, Fruit Chan accompanied Trevor Choi for media interviews and stated he was serving as a producer; however, after the announcement of the release in March this year, it was revealed that Fruit Chan was no longer the producer. Trevor Choi explained that Fruit Chan was still providing feedback a week before shooting began and helped revise the script. "If we had originally raised the entire project budget of HK$4.5 million, we could have had Fruit completely in charge. But now it’s half and half. If we want him as a producer, we need to pay him, but the money isn’t enough, and at that time he had many other commitments."] - ^ 嚴嘉栢 (18 April 2025). "《搗破法蘭克》換角、資訊發布惹議 眾籌開戲變數多 「不敢說是一條新路」". Ming Pao (in Chinese). Retrieved 1 May 2025.
蔡康凝表示,《搗破法蘭克》眾籌做法參考對象有二:美國影評YouTuber斯托克曼(Chris Stuckmann)及香港導演趙羅尼。斯托克曼的頻道訂閱數字目前約200萬,2022年3月宣布眾籌拍電影Shelby Oaks,僅用文字和短片講解概念,24小時內達成眾籌目標25萬美元(約195萬港元),最終超額,籌得逾139萬美元(約1084萬港元),2024年電影上映,比原定計劃遲一年。
[Trevor Choi stated that there were two references for the crowdfunding approach of Smashing Frank: American film critic YouTuber Chris Stuckmann and Hong Kong director Ronnie Chiu. Stuckmann's channel currently has about 2 million subscribers. In March 2022, he announced a crowdfunding campaign for the film Shelby Oaks, using only text and short videos to explain the concept. The campaign reached its goal of $250,000 (approximately HK$1.95 million) within 24 hours, ultimately exceeding expectations and raising over $1.39 million (approximately HK$10.84 million), with the film set to be released in 2024, a year later than originally planned.]
Civilization (magazine)
- ... that Civilization was almost called “Fame Whores of Hedge Fund City”? Source: Newest York interview "it may be called BORED, it may also be called MOTHERFUCKER, or FAME WHORES OF HEDGE FUND CITY" – which is actually still a quite good name."
- ALT1: ... that Civilization was supposed to be horrible, unlikable and partly AI-generated? Source: Print magazine on issue #6 "What is the reason for your up-yours-design? —To do something unlikable, repellent, horrible, ugly." Its Nice That article on issue #6 "And in some areas the human element was rejected entirely with Richard sharing that over half of the issue was made using AI writing tools."
- ALT2: ... that Civilization began in New York City? Source: Its Nice That interview "I went to BJ Magazines on Varick Street at lunch – one of the better places to get magazines [in New York], but somewhere I’ve been going less and less,” recalls designer and art director, Richard Turley, of the day back in January he decided to create his latest project, Civilization."
- ALT3: ... that Civilization responded to the COVID-19 pandemic by mailing letters? Source: The Guardian article "in 2020, as coronavirus rages through the city, the people behind Civilization – a singular print publication stuffed full of the musings of random New Yorkers – are reviving the concept. For $3 (£2.40), which you pay through their online store, they’ll send you a personalised letter."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/You're Lost Little Girl
- Comment: ALT2 is funny as a rug-pull for readers who think it's talking about "civilization" and not Civilization but I'm ok with not using it since it's the blandest of the 3.
BuySomeApples (talk) 07:15, 2 May 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review, but many of these hooks would be improved by having 'civilization' in lower case, which would necessitate running it as a WP:DYKAPRIL hook.--Launchballer 21:46, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- I almost wish I'd thought of it in time for this April fool's day. BuySomeApples (talk) 03:43, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 3
[edit]Willy Miranda (coach)
- ... that even though he had never seen a field hockey game before, Willy Miranda became his high school's coach and won over 450 games across a 42-year tenure?
- Source: DE Sports HOF / News Journal
- ALT1: ... that Willy Miranda was a high school coach in football, swimming, baseball, softball, basketball, field hockey, and lacrosse, sometimes with multiple schools at once? Source: DE Sports HOF & e.g. News Journal + News Journal for multiple schools at once ("Wilmington high girls basketball coach Willy Miranda [has resigned] ... He will remain field hockey coach at Brandywine")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Monk scam
- Comment:
To do QPQ within a day or two.Perhaps this could be featured as a date request for May 29, when he gets inducted into the Delaware Sports Hall of Fame?
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:33, 10 May 2025 (UTC).
article is new enough, long enough, well written and sourced. I spot checked a few sources and did not find any evidence of copyvio/close paraphrasing. The hooks are both interesting and verified, though I think ALT0 could be rephrased a bit: "had never seen a field hockey game before," this clause feels like it is missing what the 'before' is before, and "his high school's coach" to me implies that it could have been the high school he attended, and he worked at many different high schools so idt that "his high school" really has any meaning here. Can we try rephrasing that a bit, BeanieFan11? Eddie891 Talk Work 09:14, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 4
[edit]Deportation and detention of American citizens in the second Trump administration
- ... that Jose Hermosillo was detained for 10 days by the United States for entering the country illegally despite the fact that he hadn't entered illegally and was a American citizen?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This was submitted a little over a week (created on May 4 but submitted on May 12) but I wasn't sure was any flexibility on that. But it has expanded 5x since May 5 so maybe that is good enough to qualify.
Remember (talk) 21:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC).
- Support, and thanks. Btyner (talk) 22:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
Daughters of Mary, Mother of Our Savior
- ... that the sight of a congregation of nuns playing dodgeball in their full black religious habits has caused traffic on the road adjacent?
- ALT1: ... that only four years after being founded, a nun was violently kidnapped from her convent in New York? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20150525084042/https://www.nytimes.com/1988/08/11/nyregion/a-fight-over-an-ex-nun-s-mind-and-soul.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tai's model
- Comment: Just slightly over the one week time limit since starting the 5x expansion, but I'm requesting an exception. Cheers!
Johnson524 18:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC).
- Careful. You cited page E11 in the article, but dodgeball is only mentioned on page E10. Also, "the congregation" was (at the time the source was published) 49 nuns, but only 6 nuns worked at the school. Also, the traffic isn't interesting. How about, more simply, ALT0: that the nuns of Daughters of Mary, Mother of Our Savior have played dodgeball in their full black religious habits? DS (talk) 16:47, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Kurt Howell
- ... that wrestler Kurt Howell won all 108 of his matches in high school?
- Source: Morning News
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2023 EFL League One play-off final
- Comment:
To do QPQ within a day or two.Like Willy Miranda, perhaps this could also be featured as a date request for May 29, when he gets inducted into the Delaware Sports Hall of Fame?
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:25, 11 May 2025 (UTC).
Black dandyism
- ... that the style of Black dandyism has been worn by historic Black figures like Malcolm X, Huey P. Newton, and James Baldwin, as well as more recent celebrities like Janelle Monáe and Doechii?
- Source: "This holds from the era of zoot suits, as worn by a young Malcolm X, to Langston Hughes’ Harlem Renaissance tweeds, to the berets of Black Panthers like Huey P. Newton, to Jidenna’s contemporary classic man. And while the focus at this year’s Met Gala is on menswear for the first time since 2003, it’s also on Janelle Monáe’s tailored suits, Missy Elliott’s Afrofuturism and Grace Jones’ avant-garde androgyny." (https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/met-gala-theme-black-fashion-dandyism-superfine-rcna204417) / "The contemporary Black dandy, Miller said, is not confined by stereotypes or labels. He is Chadwick Boseman sporting a holy Versace cape to the 2018 Met Gala. They are Kai-Isaiah Jamal, the first Black trans model to walk for Louis Vuitton, wearing an Abloh-designed zoot suit in 2021. She is Doechii winning Best Rap Album at this year’s Grammys in a superfine Thom Browne suit-gown. He is the cohort of style figures hosting this year’s Met Gala — Pharrell, A$AP Rocky, Lewis Hamilton, Colman Domingo, and honorary chair LeBron James — all of whom have played pivotal roles in reshaping what it means to be masculine and fashionable." (https://hypebeast.com/2025/5/the-met-costume-institute-superfine-tailoring-black-style-contemporary-designers-monica-miller-curator-interviewer-dandy)
- ALT1: ... that the style of Black dandyism flourished during and after the Harlem Renaissance as a means of self-expression in the African American community through fine European tailoring? Source: The roots of Black dandyism lie in the intricate weaving of Black culture with European-style fashion—beginning in the post-Emancipation period, but coming into full force during the Harlem Renaissance. In the 1920s, Harlem became the epicenter of Black intellectual and artistic thought. Figures like Langston Hughes, Josephine Baker, and Zora Neale Hurston were breaking barriers with their literary and artistic contributions. But equally important was the cultural revolution taking place in fashion. The Black dandy of the Harlem Renaissance was someone who used dress to assert themselves in a world that often denied them dignity. Just as dandyism had once represented defiance against the traditional aristocracy, it now became a way to reject the limitations placed on Black people in America. The sharp suit, the polished shoes, the bow tie—these were not just fashion choices; they were ways of asserting one’s right to exist on their own terms. In a racially segregated America, the Black dandy’s outfit became a form of resistance, an elegant middle finger to a society that sought to define them by race, not character. (https://www.vogue.com/article/what-is-black-dandyism)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/James M. Goodhue
- Comment: Earwig shows a higher percentage of copyright violation because of a few reasons: 1) a Reddit post citing the lede in a blockquote and 2) a book title by Monica L. Miller that virtually every source names in full. If there are other pressing copyvio concerns, however, I would be more than happy to revise the page to address them.
Phibeatrice (talk) 20:57, 8 May 2025 (UTC).
- Do you need to add Rosiestep in, as the creator of the article too? Lajmmoore (talk) 18:33, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Mandenga Diek
- ... that Cameroon-born Mandenga Diek, who obtained German citizenship in 1896, was not allowed to return to Cameroon with his German wife? Source: Aitken, Robbie (9 April 2025). "Denied a Certificate of Fitness to Marry: The Nuremberg Race Laws as a Threat to Black German Futures". Holocaust and Genocide Studies. 39 (1): 40–56. see p. 8 of this pdf
- ALT1: ... that Mandenga Diek from the German colony of Kamerun is the earliest known African-born citizen of the German Empire? Source: https://heimatkunde.boell.de/de/2023/02/23/ploetzlich-hatten-wir-eine-afrodeutsche-geschichte-die-rolle-der-schwestern-diekhttps://sz-magazin.sueddeutsche.de/familie/mandenga-diek-abenaa-adomako-schwerze-deutsche-94300?reduced=true
- ALT2: ... that the German wife of Mandenga Diek was saved from persecution by a family photograph? Source: Reiprich & Ngambi ul Kuo 1991, p. 72
- ALT3: ... that the harassment of Cameroon-born Mandenga Diek and his family in Nazi Germany was first made public in the 1986 book Showing Our Colors: Afro-German Women Speak Out? Source: [34]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Storm Ulysses
- Comment: There are a lot of both sad and great stories here, not just "first Black German citizen". Happy for any hook suggestions.
—Kusma (talk) 21:00, 4 May 2025 (UTC).
Opiki Toll Bridge
- ... that the derelict Opiki Toll Bridge (pictured) is heritage listed in New Zealand?
- Source: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/133003558/historic-piki-bridge-falls-into-the-manawat-river "Heritage NZ approved its Category 1 listing in 2013, as a place of special or outstanding historical or cultural heritage significance or value."
📶Panamitsu (talk) 00:29, 4 May 2025 (UTC).
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Overall, looks good. Hook could be more interesting -- Maybe ** ALT1': ...that the now-derelict Opiki Toll Bridge (pictured) was once the longest suspension bridge in Australia?
also, your QPQ links to a disambiguation page. Maximilian775 (talk) 00:54, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah I agree the hook isn't that interesting. It can't be Australia (the source says Australasia and says "probably"). ALT2:
- "... that the derelict Opiki Toll Bridge (pictured) once had the longest main span in New Zealand?"
- https://www.heritage.org.nz/list-details/9619/Tane%20Hemp%20Company%20Limited%20Suspension%20Bridge%20and%20Flaxmill%20Remains (in Detailed List Entry > Physical description) "Before the Opiki bridge was built the Clifden Suspension Bridge had the longest main span in New Zealand, at 111.5 metres, with its approximately 7.5 metre concrete towers being much shorter than the Tane Hemp Company bridge’s."
- QPQ was a disambiguation link because I hadn't done it yet but it's now done. 📶Panamitsu (talk) 05:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah I agree the hook isn't that interesting. It can't be Australia (the source says Australasia and says "probably"). ALT2:
- I personally found 'the bridge is also heritage listed by the Manawatū and Horowhenua District Councils' quite interesting but the source cannot clarify any further information. Is the bridge located between the two districts? Unfortunately without knowing if the 'heritage list' in question is the Built Heritage Inventory that information is hard to gloss. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:24, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yup your theory is right. The Gazetteer shows that the bridge is in both districts, and I was surprised to see that the bridge is labelled on the map (as "Historic Bridge"). ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:16, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Immediately after I clicked publish, there was an earthquake in the same district. ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:19, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yup your theory is right. The Gazetteer shows that the bridge is in both districts, and I was surprised to see that the bridge is labelled on the map (as "Historic Bridge"). ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:16, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
May I please point out that it's not anywhere near the longest bridge in New Zealand? It may have been the longest suspension bridge when it was built – I don't know. New Zealand's longest bridge in the Rakaia Bridge. That article tells us that the initial bridge, built in 1873, was 1,370 m long. Schwede66 08:38, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for noticing that, Schwede66. I've had a closer look at the source and it says it had the longest "main span" which clearly does not mean longest bridge. I've modified the hook and article but will have a closer look tomorrow. ―Panamitsu (talk) 09:22, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
ALT3: ... that the Opiki Toll Bridge (pictured) was placed on New Zealand's national heritage register decades after the bridge deck had been removed?
Add a citation and that's fine by me. Maximilian775 (talk) 01:37, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- https://www.heritage.org.nz/list-details/9619/Tane%20Hemp%20Company%20Limited%20Suspension%20Bridge%20and%20Flaxmill%20Remains "In 1969 a replacement state highway bridge was constructed and the decking of the suspension bridge was removed." and heritage listed on "31st October 2013". ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:27, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 5
[edit]George Attla
- ... that champion sprint musher George Attla spent years of his childhood hospitalized with tuberculosis?
Annwfwn (talk) 01:01, 9 May 2025 (UTC).
- Comment — Uninteresting as written when it's well known that his leg was fused as a result of the tuberculosis and he still went on win tons of competitions in spite of the disability. Also, using a paid obituary for the source when there's seemingly no end to actual reliable sources discussing his life? Similarly, using a non-free image scavenged off the web when there are numerous publications with expired copyrights containing photos of Attla? To the latter point, as we continue to claim to be a collaborative environment, all you had to do was ask. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 02:30, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- I added a different source, there are plenty. Perhaps you can find an image? This is, as you pointed out, a collaborative project. I did not find numerous publications where the copyright had expired and so left the image placed by a previous editor. Annwfwn (talk) 10:40, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
Day One (The Last of Us)
- ... that an optional scene from The Last of Us Part II was adapted into a major scene in the television series?
- ALT1: ... that A-ha's guitarist was sent a clip from an episode of The Last of Us, and Pearl Jam's guitarist was shown around the set? Source: HBO: 19:08, 23:29
- ALT2: ... that Bella Ramsey was asked to "tone ... down" their performance in an episode of The Last of Us to make Ellie sound less like an experienced guitar player? Source: The Hollywood Reporter
- ALT3: ... that Isabela Merced (pictured) unintentionally cried during an episode of The Last of Us due to Bella Ramsey's "angelic and pure" voice? Source: Vanity Fair
- ALT4: ... that Jeffrey Wright (pictured) plays the same role in a video game and TV series? Source: Deadline
- ALT5: ... that a horse in an episode of The Last of Us previously starred in The 100 and Jurassic World Dominion? Source: Langley Advance Times
- ALT6: ... that six SkyTrain cars were purchased for an episode of The Last of Us? Source: Daily Hive
- ALT7: ... that one set of The Last of Us "smelled like shit" due to manure used for decoration? Source: Variety
- Reviewed: The Well (Doctor Who)
- Comment: Lots of different options; considered one mentioning Josh Peck but felt eight was enough. Merced image with ALT3 only, Wright with ALT4.
– Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:45, 5 May 2025 (UTC).
1982 Los Angeles Rams–Green Bay Packers game, 2013 Green Bay Packers–Dallas Cowboys game
- ... that the Green Bay Packers largest comeback was 23 points, a feat they have achieved twice: once in a 1982 game against the Los Angeles Rams and again in a 2013 game against the Dallas Cowboys?
- Source: PFR.com
- Reviewed: Sack of Yogyakarta and Martin v. United States
« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:07, 5 May 2025 (UTC).
Both articles were moved to mainspace on May 5 and promptly nominated. They are long enough.
I find the hook interesting, it is mentioned in both articles and is reliably sourced there ([35], [36]).
But both articles are at AfD. We should wait for the outcome of those discissions. --Moscow Connection (talk) 00:21, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
Ducks Ahoy!
- ... that Joyce Hakansson Associates included an activity book along with Ducks Ahoy!'s manual in order to augment the game's learning concepts, so parents can explore them further with their children at home?
- Source: Mace, Scott (1984-12-03). "Q&A: Joyce Hakansson". InfoWorld. Vol. 6, no. 49. CW Communications, Inc. p. 52.
- ALT1: ... that Joyce Hakansson Associates omitted violence from Ducks Ahoy!, a 1984 educational action game? Source: Bisson, Gigi (February 1986). "Joyce Hakansson's Fantasy Factory". Antic. Vol. 4, no. 10. San Francisco, California, United States: Antic Publishing. pp. 32–34.
- Reviewed:
Guyinblack25 talk 16:47, 5 May 2025 (UTC).
- @Guyinblack25: I see this is your first DYK nomination so I will give you a little pointer. When you are writing out your proposed hook, it is a good idea to include all of the links and formatting you want in there, like you see in the hooks on the Main page. You especially should get into the habit of linking (and bolding) the article being nominated for DYK. Best of luck! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- @PCN02WPS: Thanks for the tip. I didn’t know you could add formatting in the DYK wizard. (Guyinblack25 talk 03:37, 9 May 2025 (UTC))
Elegies (film)
- ... that Ann Hui (pictured) described an interviewee's performance as "awful" and cut his scene from her documentary Elegies?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that Ann Hui (pictured) interviewed two poets who got into an argument in unused footage from Elegies? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that the shoot for Elegies in Taiwan was almost canceled despite Ann Hui (pictured) already being there, as it was during the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic? Source: [3]
- ALT3: ... that Ann Hui (pictured) allowed the editor to work independently on Elegies? Source: [4]
- ALT4: ... that director Ann Hui (pictured) worked for free on Elegies? Source: [5]
- ALT5: ... that Ann Hui (pictured) intended to make a documentary about poetry back in 1976 before began working on Elegies in 2020? Source: [6]
- ALT6: ... that the title of Elegies comes from a suite of poems that Ann Hui (pictured) read during the film's pre-production and found touching? Source: [7]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/W leju po bombie
—👑PRINCE of EREBOR📜 10:28, 5 May 2025 (UTC).
References
- ^ 黃保慧 (13 March 2024). "男主角演戲份被剪光 名導許鞍華透露:他演得很差!". United Daily News (in Chinese). Retrieved 4 May 2025.
許鞍華在片中以戲劇形式重現黃燦然的多首經典詩作,其中一首詩卻因為由黃燦然親自演出,反而害得整首詩全被剪光。許鞍華直言:「他演得很差!連走路都不自然,後來只能忍痛把整首詩都剪掉了。他是勉強地演了,可是他真的不是演員。」
[Ann Hui visualizes several poems by Huang Canran in dramatic form within the film. However, one poem had to be completely cut because Huang performed it himself, which was detrimental to the overall piece. Ann Hui candidly remarked, "His performance is very awful! Even his walking was unnatural, so in the end, I had to painfully cut the entire poem. He performed reluctantly, but he really is not an actor."] - ^ 余婉蘭 (22 November 2023). "許鞍華、廖偉棠對談:香港經此世變,詩是高度痛感|金馬入圍紀錄片《詩》". Initium Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 February 2025.
其實我還訪問了兩個詩人,那個訪問挺精彩⋯⋯因為他們兩個吵起架了,是熒惑和洪慧。但如果我們放進這部分,就多了一隻「腳仔」(支線)。當作之後還有一集。
[Actually, I also interviewed two poets, and that interview was quite exciting... because they got into an argument, they are Jacky Yuen and Hong Wai. But if we include this part, it adds a "subplot". [I will] Consider it for a sequel.] - ^ 項貽斐 (22 March 2024). "【專訪3】不以地域界定香港詩人 黃燦然「經濟流亡」深圳、廖偉棠移民台灣". Mirror Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 February 2025.
疫情期間拍攝,許鞍華無論去深圳、台灣都得隔離,還因疫情的緊張、和緩讓隔離天數有時變長、有時變短,尤其來台拍廖偉棠時,忽然疫情升溫,製片擔心危險,不想造成工作人員或廖偉棠家人的困擾,希望許鞍華在台隔離結束就回香港。但是她認為,人都來了,就拍一點,盡量小心。
[During the filming period of the pandemic, Ann Hui had to quarantine whether she went to Shenzhen or Taiwan. The duration of the quarantine varied because of the fluctuating intensity of the pandemic. Especially when she came to Taiwan to film Liu Wai-tong, the pandemic suddenly intensified. The producer was worried about the danger and did not want to cause any trouble for the staff or Liu Wai-tong's family, wanting Ann Hui would return to Hong Kong as soon as her quarantine in Taiwan ended. However, she believed that since everyone was already there, they should film a little, while being as careful as possible.] - ^ 余婉蘭 (22 November 2023). "許鞍華、廖偉棠對談:香港經此世變,詩是高度痛感|金馬入圍紀錄片《詩》". Initium Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 February 2025.
剪接時,我們跟剪接師說,我想怎樣,這件事怎樣,其實說得很抽象。我們拍的東西不是很多,他就關上房門,自己自彈自唱,搞了差不多四五個月。
[During the editing process, we told the editor what I wanted and how we envisioned things, but it was quite vague. We did not have a lot of footage, so he closed the door and worked on his own, "playing and singing" for nearly four to five months.] - ^ 余婉蘭 (22 November 2023). "許鞍華、廖偉棠對談:香港經此世變,詩是高度痛感|金馬入圍紀錄片《詩》". Initium Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 February 2025.
Alice、 Ken和我都是無償沒計薪的,如果一計就不夠錢。
[Alice, Ken, and I all worked without pay, because if we accounted for it, there would not be enough budget.] - ^ 蕭采薇 (20 March 2024). "「金馬紀錄保持人」許鞍華76歲不退休! 鄭少秋換周潤發內幕曝光". ETtoday (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 February 2025.
許鞍華表示,最早在1975年、1976年間在TVB拍《獅子山下》後,就非常想拍古詩紀錄片及張愛玲的小說《傾城之戀》。雖然當時沒拍成,但這個想以詩為主題的創作熱情卻一直放在心裡等待機會。
[Ann Hui stated that after filming Lion Rock at TVB in 1975 and 1976, she had a strong desire to create a documentary about classical poetry and a novel adaptation on Eileen Chang's novella Love in a Fallen City. Although she did not manage to make [the documentary] at that time, her passion for poetry-themed creations remained in her heart, waiting for an opportunity.] - ^ 項貽斐 (22 March 2024). "【專訪4】詩作影像節奏拿捏有「禪意」 心有所感「哀歌」成「詩」". Mirror Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 February 2025.
至於紀錄片《詩》的英文片名為《Elegies》(哀歌、輓歌之意),是源於黃燦然90年代由七首詩組成的《哀歌》組詩。許鞍華說:「這應該是他最有名的作品、也是我第一次接觸到他的作品。那時我不認識他,是在一本詩選集裡看到其中一首,覺得很感動,所以籌備時就暫名《哀歌》。
[As for the documentary Elegies, its English title is "Elegies", which refers to Huang Canran's suite of seven poems from the 1990s also titled Elegies. Ann Hui said, "This should be his most famous work, and it was my first encounter with his writing. At that time, I did not know him; I saw one of the poems in an anthology and felt very moved, so during the pre-production, I use "Elegies" as the working title."]
Articles created/expanded on May 6
[edit]McKayla Maroney
- ... that McKayla Maroney (pictured) is not impressed?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/If Looks Could Kill (Destroy Lonely album)
- Comment: Driveby nom; remind me to commission a trim of the picture at WP:Photography workshop.
Launchballer 01:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC).
Big Stone County Museum
- ... that the Big Stone County Museum preserves an historic octagonal one-room schoolhouse (pictured)?
paul2520 💬 00:47, 13 May 2025 (UTC).
WRBW
- ... that before it signed on, a Florida TV station was the subject of a U.S. Supreme Court case and a protest by a competitor over its antenna? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-orlando-sentinel-high-court-to-rule/158890498/ and https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-orlando-sentinel-channel-65-gets-ant/108884140/
- ALT1: ... that to permit a Florida TV station to be built, the owner of its tower had to intervene, as a competitor refused to reduce power so workers could safely operate? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-orlando-sentinel-channel-65-gets-ant/108884140/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sambas expeditions
- Comment: Some fun hook ideas here, though less confident on the wording.
Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 20:11, 7 May 2025 (UTC).
Boulder-Deer Creek Pass
- ... that Boulder-Deer Creek Pass (pictured) is home to '"Togo" wolves and is potential grizzly habitat?
- Source: "Draft-2022 Conflict Mitigation Plan for Livestock Operations within the Togo Wolf Pack Territory" - Togo pack 2021 territory
- ALT1: ... that the area of Boulder-Deer Creek Pass (pictured) has burned in at least three major wildfires? Source: "Ferry County, Washington Community Wildfire Protection Plan (CWPP)" 2006 - Remaining snags and other evidence of the 1932(sic) Dollar Mountain fire indicate... (Dollar Mountain Was 1929)
History of Fires on the Colville 1941 - Aeneas Creek Fire map
"Kettle Complex Fires at 62,000 acres; some roads, trails closed". Spokesman Review. August 28, 2015 - Stickpin Fire map- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aquilegia micrantha var. mancosana
- Comment: Reviewed Aquilegia micrantha var. mancosana of the nomination
Kevmin § 16:50, 6 May 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on May 7
[edit]May Bradford Shockley
- ... that May Bradford Shockley is why Silicon Valley is where it is?
- Source: [37]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Push 2 Start
- Comment: Regrettably, I couldn't get this out for US Mother's Day because life intervened. Be aware I intend to upload an image ASAP.
Pbritti (talk) 01:47, 13 May 2025 (UTC).
Durga Puja in Bangladesh
- ... that Durga Puja, one of the largest Hindu festivals in Bangladesh, saw 31,461 puja mandaps in 2024, with rituals like Sindur Khela and Dhunuchi Nritya captivating devotees?
- Reviewed:
Somajyoti ✉ 12:24, 11 May 2025 (UTC).
Riverside Drive (Manhattan)
- ... that one newspaper described the mansions of Riverside Drive as "glitter[ing] like a wedding cake"? Source: Peck, Richard (April 14, 1974). "Riverside Drive, Brussels' Flourishes". The New York Times.
- ALT1: ... that although New York City's Riverside Drive attracted many wealthy residents in the late 19th century, only two freestanding mansions survive from that era? Source: Fahmy, Dalia (December 2, 2002). "Changing currents on Riverside Conceived for the wealthy, a street on Manhattan's Upper West Side instead became a middle-class stronghold. But now the well-to-do are moving back". Financial Times. p. 5.
- ALT2: ... that although New York City's Riverside Drive attracted many wealthy residents, few of them were old money families or extremely wealthy? Source: Peck, Richard (April 14, 1974). "Riverside Drive, Brussels' Flourishes".
- ALT3: ... that in the mid-20th century, garage entrances could not be built on New York City's Riverside Drive? Source: "Garage on Riverside Drive; City to Permit Erection, but Bars Entrance on Thoroughfare". The New York Times. July 20, 1927.
- ALT4: ... that when New York City's Riverside Drive was extended in the 1900s, there were complaints that the road was obstructing views from a cemetery's burial plots? Source: "Cemetery View Shut Off; Plot Owners in Trinity Grounds Complain of Riverside Drive Wall". The New York Times. June 23, 1907.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Source
- Comment: More hook suggestions welcomed
Epicgenius (talk) 15:36, 8 May 2025 (UTC).
Star Trek: Day of Blood
- ... that Star Trek: Day of Blood is the first crossover event between ongoing comic books in the Star Trek franchise?
- Source: Lovett, Jaime (November 19, 2022). "Star Trek: Day of Blood Crossover Announced". Comic Book. Retrieved 24 April 2025.
- ALT1: ... that the comic book Star Trek: Day of Blood includes a tie-in starred by Shaxs from Star Trek: Lower Decks? Source: Lovett, Jamie (September 24, 2023). "Star Trek: Lower Decks' Shaxs Has His Best Day Ever In New Preview". Comicbook.com. Retrieved 7 May 2025.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Regina George (Mean Girls)
Cambalachero (talk) 14:31, 7 May 2025 (UTC).
Folding Ideas
- ... that Folding Ideas has covered Fifty Shades, flat Earth, and NFTs?
- Source:
- Williams, Wil (2021-06-01). "The essential video essays of YouTube history". Polygon. Retrieved 2025-05-07.
- Williams, Wil (2020-12-30). "The best video essays of 2020". Polygon. Retrieved 2025-04-29.
- Chow, Andrew R. (2022-02-03). "'The Problem With NFTs': A Crypto Expert Responds to a Viral Takedown". TIME. Retrieved 2025-05-06.
- Reviewed:
Based5290 :3 (talk) 07:10, 7 May 2025 (UTC).
Based5290, article is new enough, long enough and QPQ is unnecessary. Violation is unlikely as Earwig found 14.5% plagiarism, but I believe this close paraphrasing should fixed, "provides the kind of empathetic and insightful commentary that should be exemplary to critics on YouTube and beyond", quoted from Indy Film Library. I also don't find the hook interesting, or is it just not clear enough? I guess I'll leave the hook to more experienced reviewers. dxneo (talk) 21:56, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- dxneo I'm not personally convinced that quote is problematic, but I reworded it anyways. I suppose that Fifty Shades and NFTs are probably too niche to use directly, so maybe ALT1: ...a pop culture YouTuber analyzed flat Earth, QAnon, and cryptocurrency? Source: [38][39][40] Based5290 :3 (talk) 22:10, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- dxneo, thoughts on the nominator's comments. Sohom (talk) 04:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
My apologies. However, I still don't feel like the hook is "wow". Everyone cover world news nowadays, so how is this any different? It fails WP:DYKINT. A new hook, from a different angle is required. dxneo (talk) 06:00, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2...that a video about flat Earth and QAnon by Folding Ideas was noted for its landscape shots? Source: [41][42]
- ALT3...that one critic called a review by Folding Ideas "exemplary to critics on YouTube and beyond"? Source: [43] Based5290 :3 (talk) 07:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- dxneo, thoughts on the nominator's comments. Sohom (talk) 04:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Ben Roberts-Smith
- ... that Ben Roberts-Smith is a recipient of the Victoria Cross for Australia, who was found in a civil defamation trial to have committed war crimes (including murder) while deployed to Afghanistan? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240508130634/https://www.theage.com.au/national/ben-roberts-smith-case-former-sas-soldier-committed-war-crimes-20230314-p5crv4.html
TarnishedPathtalk 03:15, 7 May 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: Seems to run afoul of WP:DYKHOOKBLP. Bremps... 08:22, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
- n
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: The issue is WP:DYKBLP;
Hooks that unduly focus on negative aspects of living persons should be avoided
. This hook is almost definitely a violation of this policy, so unfortunately a new one is needed, @TarnishedPath:. jolielover♥talk 08:25, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- @jolielover, given that both aspects mentioned in the hook (the award of the VC and the war crimes finding) are what Ben Roberts-Smith is notable for, I don't see how mentioning the war crimes finding "
unduly focus on negative aspects of living persons
" (my emphasis). Please reconsider. TarnishedPathtalk 08:31, 7 May 2025 (UTC)- @TarnishedPath: Even if they are mostly known for the crime, unfortunately, this hook definitely can't run due to BLP concerns. Several sources in the article mention he is Australia's most decorated soldier, could a hook be written to talk of that instead? jolielover♥talk 08:51, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ps, if absolutely necessary I will think up a new hook, but this is what they are most notable for so I'd rather not. Curtesy ping @Bremps. TarnishedPathtalk 08:33, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- I wouldn't want to usurp the reviewer but mentioning a civil trial instead of a criminal trial is what concerned me, due to lower standards of evidence. Bremps... 08:35, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, I get where you are coming from. Would
- ALT1 ... that after Ben Roberts-Smith was awarded the Victoria Cross for Australia, he lost a civil trial after they were accused of war crimes and they then sued for defamation?
- Be suitable? Pinging @jolielover and @Bremps. TarnishedPathtalk 08:49, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Best not mention the crimes at all jolielover♥talk 09:09, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's an ongoing case before the Aussie Supreme Court, so I'd be hesitant. Bremps... 09:05, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that after Ben Roberts-Smith was awarded the Victoria Cross for Australia, he was referred to as Australia’s most decorated living soldier?
- Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20221227131008/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/03/world/australia/ben-roberts-smith-defamation-trial.html
- Pinging @jolielover? TarnishedPathtalk 09:23, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- @TarnishedPath: Really small nitpick, but the framing makes it seem like a cause-and-effect relationship, whilst the source doesn't explicitly say it. What about:
- Ok, I get where you are coming from. Would
- ALT3: ... that Ben Roberts-Smith is Australia's most decorated living soldier?
source: https://web.archive.org/web/20221227131008/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/03/world/australia/ben-roberts-smith-defamation-trial.html jolielover♥talk 10:33, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Jolielover, I'm not sure if that statement is true anymore. It was certainly true at the time of the award of the VC, however I'm not certain that it still is. I had heard that it had changed, however I can't find any sourcing and unfortunately google searching defaults back to us. I'm not going to argue too much against ALT3, but I think ALT2 is the one which I can say is 100% correct. TarnishedPathtalk 10:38, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
I'd consider the hook alright since like you said there aren't newer sources saying otherwise, and there have been cases of hooks that weren't true at the time of them appearing on the main page (this year's april fools set had one like that). Nevertheless, I'll request a second opinion. jolielover♥talk 13:06, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Jolielover, I'm not sure if that statement is true anymore. It was certainly true at the time of the award of the VC, however I'm not certain that it still is. I had heard that it had changed, however I can't find any sourcing and unfortunately google searching defaults back to us. I'm not going to argue too much against ALT3, but I think ALT2 is the one which I can say is 100% correct. TarnishedPathtalk 10:38, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Just add the year. ALT4: ... that in 2011, Ben Roberts-Smith became Australia's most decorated soldier? Bremps... 16:48, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
I'm not happy with the idea of an article that's this negative having a hook that feels so positive. It feels dishonest, and maybe even a bit whitewash-y. DS (talk) 18:45, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Alternatively we could WP:IAR to halt the process until the Aussie Supreme Court has a verdict either way, which seems to be soon. Bremps... 19:52, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think we can assume that a verdict will be soon. The appeal alone has been going on for almost two years now. I'd be happy to go ahead with ALT4. TarnishedPathtalk 23:14, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @jolielover, @Bremps and @DragonflySixtyseven, the full bench of the Federal Court of Australia has just made a ruling upholding Justice Besanko's orginal 2023 ruling that Roberts-Smith had committed war crimes, including murder, when he served in Afghanistan. See https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/may/16/ben-roberts-smith-loses-appeal-defamation-ruling-case-war-crimes-afghanistan-ntwnfb for details. Thoughts on whether we should now go with my original hook? TarnishedPathtalk 00:48, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Go for it. Bremps... 01:16, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT5:... that Ben Roberts-Smith won the Victoria Cross for Australia, was named Father of the Year, and was found by a judge to have committed at least four murders? DS (talk) 02:17, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- @DragonflySixtyseven or:
- ALT5a:... that Ben Roberts-Smith won the Victoria Cross for Australia, was named Father of the Year, and was found in a civil defamation trial to have committed at least four murders? TarnishedPathtalk 02:26, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT5:... that Ben Roberts-Smith won the Victoria Cross for Australia, was named Father of the Year, and was found by a judge to have committed at least four murders? DS (talk) 02:17, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Go for it. Bremps... 01:16, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
Poop emoji

- ... that a golden pile of poo is considered luck in Japan?
- Source: [44]
🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 12:46, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
Just noting that the GA review that admitted this was woefully inadequate and is being challenged at WT:GA, so I'm putting this on hold until someone does a proper job.--Launchballer 03:32, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Another user has managed to finished the review to that GAN page. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 21:03, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 8
[edit]Laura LeRoy Travis
- ... that Laura LeRoy Travis was the first woman at the University of Delaware to coach a men's sports team?
- Source: DE Sports HOF
- Reviewed: to do
- Comment: To do QPQ within a day or two.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC).
KPTM
- ... that a Nebraska TV station passed up on affiliating with Fox at its launch, its manager asking, "Why would you program Joan Rivers in Johnny Carson's hometown?" Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-lincoln-star-omahas-channel-42-ties/123907693/
Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 05:54, 10 May 2025 (UTC).
Glossa ordinaria (Accursius)
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- ... that some scholars contend that the author of the Glossa ordinaria (pictured) participated in extortionate dealings with his students and accepted gifts during examinations? Source: "Seinen Reichtum soll er u. a. durch Wuchergeschäfte mit Studenten und durch Annahme von Geschenken in Prüfungsverfahren erworben haben. Ob dies zutrifft und inwieweit ein solches Verhalten lediglich dem damals Üblichen entsprach, bedarf noch näherer Prüfung." Translates to: "He is said to have acquired his wealth, among other things, through usurious transactions with students and by accepting gifts in examination procedures. Whether this is true and to what extent such behaviour merely corresponded to what was customary at the time requires further investigation." Source
- ALT1: ... that "whatever the Glossa does not recognize, the court does not recognize"? Source: Legal adage from the 17th century, quoted on the top of the right-hand margin Source
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/John Papadimitriou
WatkynBassett (talk) 18:58, 9 May 2025 (UTC).
Wang Yungui
- ... that businesses owned by Yao woman Wang Yungui lifted 12,00 people out of poverty? Source: 到2018年,金秀共脱贫3345户1.2万多人,摘帽14个贫困村,贫困发生率降至2.496%。[translation: "By 2018, Jinxiu had lifted 3,345 households and more than 12,000 people out of poverty, and 14 poor villages were lifted out of poverty, with the poverty incidence rate dropping to 2.496%."] https://v.gxnews.com.cn/a/19780677
- ALT1: ... that to promote her speciality foods business Yao woman Wang Yungui streamed content in traditional costume? Source: "... 2016, she set up a tea processing plant with an annual capacity of 1,500 kilograms. She began livestreaming to publicize tea picking and making in Liuduan. The traditional Yao costumes and cloud-shrouded mountains captured public attention ..." https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202106/07/WS60bd7201a31024ad0bac3f6d.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Arrest of Marcy Rheintgen
- Comment: 1) I started the draft back in February, but only got round to publishing it on 8 May.
2) I checked WP:RS for the China sources and they all seem either not yet evaluated or come under WP:MREL e.g. WP:CHINADAILY. In all cases as they are biographical facts about a businesswoman I think they can be considered generally reliable.
Lajmmoore (talk) 19:28, 8 May 2025 (UTC).
Greg MacLeod
- ... that CTV News was duped into reporting that Canadian priest Greg MacLeod (pictured) was related to Donald Trump? Source: CTV News: "History students from Cape Breton University discovered that Greg MacLeod -- a retired business professor -- is distant cousins with the reality TV star- and businessman-turned-politician." ... "Correction: CTV News has learned that this was an April Fool’s Day prank. We regret the error."
- ALT1: ... that CTV News erroneously reported that a Canadian priest was related to Donald Trump? Source: Same as above
- Reviewed:
MediaKyle (talk) 01:44, 8 May 2025 (UTC).
No QPQ needed, article looks to overall be in good shape. No copyvio problems. However, the claims in the hooks themselves seem to be a violation of WP:PRIMARY, as they are simply citing the original article that reported the claim and that contains a brief retraction. Are there any secondary sources about this that could be used instead? ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 15:21, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for reviewing. I don't believe the incident was otherwise reported on, unfortunately. I didn't consider that this might be an issue, I just thought it was humorous when I pulled it up and it seemed like the good choice for DYK. Unfortunately I don't think there's anything else in the article really worth mentioning in a hook so maybe we'll leave this for another time. Cheers, MediaKyle (talk) 15:26, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Current nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on May 9
[edit]Ayman Hassouna
- ... that Ayman Hassouna led student expedition to investigate archaeological sites in Gaza?
- Source: "As the field director of the GAZAMAP project, he has provided field training to archaeology students and coordinated surveys of key sites including Tell es-Sakan, Tell Ruqeish, and Tell Qatif." Our Universities Live On: An Interview with Dr. Ayman Hassouna, Professor in Ancient Archaeology at the Islamic University of Gaza, Friends of Birzeit University,
Richard Nevell (talk) 22:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC).
WSIL-TV
- ... that an Illinois TV station was said to have a reputation for "illustrat[ing] a flood by showing its audience a hand-drawn picture of a lake in the corner of the screen"? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/southern-illinoisan-channel-3-gets-ready/128305365/
Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 20:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC).
- Problem is, I checked the original source, and it's not clear whether the station ever actually did this, or if it was a general perception as "the sort of thing those cheapskates might do", or if it was a phrase that Mackie Nicholes came up with while talking to Ed Bean, or if it was a phrase that Ed Bean came up with by himself.
"It takes a long time to change people's viewing habits, Nicholes admits. The perception of Channel 3 as a station that illustrates a flood by showing its audience a hand-drawn picture of a lake in the corner of the screen, rather than sending a film crew to the scene, may not die easily.
Did they mean this literally? DS (talk) 16:59, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Agnes Gallus
- ... that Agnes Gallus fled Hungary during the 1956 revolution and moved to Canada, where she became a respected artist while raising children as a single mother? Source: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/facts-and-arguments/agnes-szentgyorgyi-gallus/article568112/ (the obituary covers the timeline of her leaving Hungary in 1956, going to Canada in 1957, separating from her husband in 1968, and becoming a successful artist)
BuySomeApples (talk) 03:39, 10 May 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on May 10
[edit]Portal of the Folded Wings Shrine to Aviation
- ... that a Piper PA-31 Navajo once crashed into the Portal of the Folded Wings Shrine to Aviation, a 72-foot tall shrine to aviation?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: according to the page bytes, the article is only 2x expanded, but I also removed much of the original page when I redid it, and had I done this in separate steps, the new page would be 5x expanded
Gb321 (talk) 16:51, 11 May 2025 (UTC). General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Yes, per below discussion
Unfortunately, this is still not long enough. We count expansions by prose size, not by raw text size. Even so, the version prior to expansion includes 1,613 bytes of prose (if the block quote is included). The current version of the article has 5,868 bytes of prose. The article would be eligible for DYK if the block quote wasn't included, as the previous version minus the block quote is 1,026 bytes, but I don't know whether block quotes should be counted here. Other DYK regulars (pinging @DYK admins: ) might be able to advise.
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
- There is a {{One source}} tag. It should be resolved before this appears on the Main Page, if it is eligible.
Since the source in question is a reliable source, though, I think it can be removed.(See Amakuru's comment below; this must be resolved, even if you were the editor who added the tag.)
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Overall: @Gb321: Nice work on the article. However, I do have some concerns, which I've raised above. Epicgenius (talk) 13:15, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure the "one source" template should be removed or ignored, even though it was apparently put in there by the nominator... the fact that there are no other sources used for that section means it's almost certainly close paraphrasing, and an orange-tag issue should be resolved properly. — Amakuru (talk) 13:23, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- I do not think we should count the quote for the pre-expansion size. My prosesize tool does not and I think this meets the 5x expansion test. —Kusma (talk) 13:28, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- (ec) Hi Epicgenius, WP:DYKLEN specifically excludes non-original text, and so I would exclude the block quote. That being said, I share Amakuru's concern over the orange tag and the section. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:29, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- The DYK admins template should only be used for emergencies, but prose is measured by characters not bytes and the blockquote isn't counted towards character count, so this is (at best) a 4.16x expansion, from 1409 to 5868. If you can resolve the tag and any/all close paraphrasing, WP:GA is that-a-way.--Launchballer 13:34, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- According to Prosesize, it was expanded from 1114 bytes/180 words to 5852 bytes/923 words, which is fine. What tool are you using? —Kusma (talk) 13:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm using DYKcheck, which shows 1409/188 even after editing the previous version to remove the blockquote and showing preview.--Launchballer 13:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- My bad. Next time I'll post on WT:DYK instead, I didn't realize that template was not a general-use template for pinging DYK admins or regular users. That being said, I came to the same conclusion as Kusma regarding the prose size; I just thought the block quote in the previous version of the article might pose some problems if it were treated as prose. Epicgenius (talk) 13:56, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- According to Prosesize, it was expanded from 1114 bytes/180 words to 5852 bytes/923 words, which is fine. What tool are you using? —Kusma (talk) 13:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- thanks for the feedback everyone. I'll work on getting that 'one source' tag removed
The Oslo Study
- ... that the The Oslo Study withheld treatment from 2,000 patients with syphilis and influenced the researchers who conducted the Tuskegee Syphilis Study? Source: [45] "In the period 1891 – 1910, about 2,000 people with syphilis were admitted to the dermatology department of the National Hospital. The head of the department, Cæsar Boeck (1845 – 1917), believed that one should wait for the natural course of the disease and refrain from drug treatment. He documented the diagnosis and clinical course in detail in all his patients." - "Bruusgaard's and Gjestland's research was important for the Tuskegee study in the USA. The Oslo study implicitly supported this research project"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flower
BuySomeApples (talk) 04:34, 11 May 2025 (UTC).
Joe Eddins
- ... that Joe Eddins got Oklahoma to enact universal preschool?
- Source: Lerner, Sharon (December 4, 2012). "Pre-K on the Range". The American Prospect. Archived from the original on November 16, 2019. Retrieved May 10, 2025.
- ALT1: ... that Joe Eddins fixed kindergarten enrollment in Oklahoma by enacting universal preschool? Source: Lerner, Sharon (December 4, 2012). "Pre-K on the Range". The American Prospect. Archived from the original on November 16, 2019. Retrieved May 10, 2025.
- Reviewed:
HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC).
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- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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- Cited:
- Interesting:
Image eligibility:
- Freely licensed:
- Used in article:
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Sin and Flesh Brook
- ... that Sin and Flesh Brook gets its name from the murder and mutilation of a colonist during King Philip's War?
- Source: "The Spirit of Sin and Flesh Brook". Tiverton Historical Society. Tiverton, Rhode Island. Retrieved 19 April 2025.
- ALT1: ... that Sin and Flesh Brook used to called "Sinning Flesh River"? Source: "The Spirit of Sin and Flesh Brook". Tiverton Historical Society. Tiverton, Rhode Island. Retrieved 19 April 2025.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aquilegia paui
- Comment: Open to alternate hook suggestions
awkwafaba (📥) 00:42, 11 May 2025 (UTC).
2025 Philippine barangay and Sangguniang Kabataan elections
- ... that after the postponement of the 2023 barangay elections were declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, new bills postponing the 2025 elections to a later date were still filed?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dominic Vairo
- Comment: This was created on May 11, 2025 in my time zone, but Wikipedia thinks I am a time traveler. The QPQ review will be done after the 2025 Philippine general election. Explanation on the hook:
- 2023 barangay elections was supposed to have been held in 2020, but was postponed (not due to COVID) to 2022, then to 2023.
- The Supreme Court ruled the law postponing the 2022 election to 2023 as unconstitutional. The 2023 elections proceeded as scheduled.
- Now, there are now several bills postponing the 2025 barangay elections to a later date.
Howard the Duck (talk) 22:10, 10 May 2025 (UTC).
Singapore Rail Test Centre
- ... that the Singapore Rail Test Centre is the first exclusive train testing facility in Southeast Asia?
- ALT1: ... that the Singapore Rail Test Centre allows integrated systems testing for different trains and rail systems simultaneously, avoiding the need to conduct tests on operational lines on the MRT network? Source: https://www.lta.gov.sg/content/ltagov/en/who_we_are/statistics_and_publications/Connect/singaporerailtestcentre.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mee siam mai hum
ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 15:28, 10 May 2025 (UTC).
Mykola Chaikovsky
- ... that Ukrainian mathematician, Mykola Chaikovsky, wrote the first Ukrainian-language science fiction novel? Source: https://fantlab.org/blogarticle37223 and https://archivsf.narod.ru/1887/nikolay_chaykovskiy/index.htm
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:24, 10 May 2025 (UTC).
- This is not a review, but how well-attested is the claim that the novel was the first Ukrainian-language sci-fi novel? That's quite a bold and exceptional claim, and per the guidelines such claims require exceptional sourcing to make sure that it's actually true. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:58, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I agree the current sourcing is so-so; the cited source (FantLab) is not listed as unreliable, but it also does not strike me as scholarly. Unfortunately, if better sources exist, they are in Ukranian/Russian, and searching in these languages is hard for me (I've asked AI to search for scholarly sources in ru/uk; if I find anything better I'll update this post). I've proposed a safer ALT1 below, backed up by a reliable English ref. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:27, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Ukrainian mathematician, Mykola Chaikovsky, wrote one of the first Ukrainian science fiction novel, and published it in Poland? Source: https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/ukraine
Articles created/expanded on May 11
[edit]2024 World Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 400 metres
- ... that Femke Bol ran a short track world record of 49.17 seconds in the women's 400 metres at the 2024 World Athletics Indoor Championships (medalists pictured)?
- Source: "Dutch runner Femke Bol rewrote her own world record in the indoor 400 metres on Saturday, while Britain's Josh Kerr steamrolled to victory in the men's 3,000 to the delight of the home crowd at the world indoor athletics championships. The 24-year-old 400 hurdles specialist made it look effortless, leading from the gun to clock 49.17 seconds and beat the previous mark of 49.24 she set two weeks ago at the Dutch national championships." link
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hannah Fry
- Comment: this photo probably fits the hook better, but I am not sure it is clear enough at diminished size.
Editør (talk) 01:29, 15 May 2025 (UTC).
John Lynch (linguist)
- ... that John Lynch authored an anonymous newsletter satirizing the university he was later made vice chancellor of?
- ALT1: ... that the book The Oceanic Languages, coauthored by John Lynch, is so well-known by linguists of the Oceanic languages that it is referred to simply as "the blue book"? Source: "His 2002 publication with Malcolm Ross and Terry Crowley, The Oceanic Languages, a compendium of descriptions of forty-three Oceanic languages with a great deal of additional material on the sociolinguistic background and the reconstructed ancestral language, Proto-Oceanic, was intended in a sense to replace Ray (1926). It has become a standard reference work, affectionately known to Oceanic linguists as “the blue book,” from the color of its cover." p. 493
- ALT2: ... that at one point, John Lynch was the only honors linguistics student at the University of Sydney? Source: "One year John was the only honours student in linguistics and attended classes in Capell's office, where the latter read from his lecture notes for the whole hour." p. 490
- ALT3: ... that after his wife died, John Lynch set up an award in her name to honor women who work in community service or disability advocacy? Source: "John was a long-time friend of the Australian High Commission and was instrumental in establishing the Australian High Commission’s International Women’s Day awards in honour of his late wife, Andy Lynch [...] John remained highly involved in selecting the awardees of the Andy Lynch Award right up until 2020. We will remember John as a champion of local women’s leadership in the disability and community services sector and a friend and mentor to many. "
- ALT4: ... that John Lynch was known as an impressive writer, leading one collaborator later to write: "The first draft was the final draft, it was always that good"? Source: "His work ethic and talent for writing were legendary: Jan Tent, who worked with him on course books on phonology and morphology in the 1990s, writes: 'I was amazed at how quickly John wrote. The first draft was the final draft, it was always that good. It was a great honor and privilege to have had the chance to work with John in developing and writing those two courses.'", p. 493
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Keijō nippō
ThaesOfereode (talk) 00:51, 12 May 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is generally in good shape and expanded more than 5x during the window. All hooks are sourced; I think ALT2 is the strongest of them. Two images have free licences which check out; the main portrait is used under fair use; we should really give some detail of the efforts taken to find a free-use image rather than simply asserting that none probably exist, but I'm not going to be too insistent on that here. QPQ is done. There are quite a few passages which seem to closely paraphrase this obituary; this needs to be addressed before the article can hit the main page. For the benefit of (perhaps far) future readers, I would consider explaining why his funeral was held virtually -- hopefully, we will soon get to the point where readers need reminding of the exact dates of the pandemic. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:54, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Thanks for the review! Given that I only cited Ross & Blust once (which re-reading it, I should have used more), would you mind pointing out some of the CLOP issues? I tried really hard to avoid them with Geraghty & Pawley (2021) in particular, so I must've accidentally fallen into Ross & Blust in error. Earwig basically just spit out a concern because of the biblio and because I like to spell out the names (e.g., of universities) in full. As for the funeral, I almost put in that it was because of COVID... but I couldn't confirm that; his four brothers lived in Australia and I couldn't confirm that it wasn't because of some other reason (e.g., they couldn't afford to fly out) without dipping into a WP:OR issue. ThaesOfereode (talk) 23:47, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't help that the two sources are very similar indeed (to the point where I'd certainly raise concerns if they were Wikipedia articles!), so I can see how you've ended up very close to one without using it heavily. Actually, it's clearer to use Geraghty and Pawley directly to show the issues. A few examples -- source text first, article text follows:
- (Geraghty and Pawley): In 1958 the Lynches moved to Melbourne, where John attended the Jesuits’ Xavier College. ... In his high school years he studied Latin, French, Greek and German — in fact the school didn't offer German so he taught himself and was tutored by the Austrian wife of one of his teachers, and he passed the German exam too in his final year: versus The Lynches lived in Wahroonga, a suburb north of Sydney, until 1958 when they moved to Melbourne. There, John attended Xavier College, a boarding school run by the Society of Jesus, during which he studied Latin, French, Ancient Greek, and German. Because the school did not offer German as a subject, he taught himself before being tutored by a member of the staff's Austrian wife. The structure is identical, with some phrases lifted verbatim, and others lightly rearranged (e.g. "a member of the staff's Austrian wife" for "the Austrian wife of one of his teachers".
- (idem) In 1964 John obtained a Commonwealth Scholarship and began an honours degree in Arts at The University of Sydney, graduating with first class honours in 1968. ... His sole linguistics teacher during his four years at The University of Sydney was Rev. Dr. Arthur Capell versus Lynch began his undergraduate studies in 1964 after receiving a Commonwealth Scholarship. He attended the University of Sydney, receiving a degree in anthropology and a linguistics distinction with first-class honours in 1968. At one point the only student in the honours linguistics program, Lynch's only linguistics professor was Arthur Capell
- (idem) For the next few years he divided his time between teaching at UPNG, taking courses at the UH, fieldwork on Tanna, writing his doctoral thesis, and taking over the editorship of Kivung (later renamed Language and Linguistics in Melanesia) ... Lynch was editor of volumes 7 to 11 from 1974 to 1978, then review editor from 1982 to 1986, and an associate editor or editorial board member from 1986 onward versus During this period, Lynch both taught at the University of Papua New Guinea and took classes back in Hawaii while writing his dissertation. He also assumed the chief editing role at the academic journal Kivung (now Language and Linguistics in Melanesia) ... Lynch was chief editor between 1974 and 1978, though later served as a reviewing editor from 1982 to 1986. From 1986 until his death, he served as either an associate editor or as a member of the journal's editorial board
- (idem) After twenty-one years, John’s stint at the UPNG came to an end. ... he and his wife Andonia Piau-Lynch (known to all as Andy) and their two young sons moved to Vanuatu, where Andonia forged a career first as an educational psychologist (the only degree-holding psychologist in Vanuatu) and later as an advocate for the rights of people with disabilities and for women’s rights. After twenty-one years at the University of Papua New Guinea, Lynch left to begin work at the University of the South Pacific's Emalus campus; he, his wife, and two young sons moved to Port Vila, Vanuatu, towards the end of 1991. While there, his wife worked as an educational psychologist on the island and was the nation's only psychologist with a degree. She was later an advocate for women's rights in Vanuatu, as well as for those with disabilities
- You've clearly made efforts to rephrase, but fundamentally these are minor variations keeping the same selection and arrangement of facts, which is a copyvio concern. UndercoverClassicist T·C 05:31, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't help that the two sources are very similar indeed (to the point where I'd certainly raise concerns if they were Wikipedia articles!), so I can see how you've ended up very close to one without using it heavily. Actually, it's clearer to use Geraghty and Pawley directly to show the issues. A few examples -- source text first, article text follows:
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[edit]The Old Elm
- ... that The Old Elm was used by the Ottoman Turks to hang captured hajduks?
- ALT1: ... that part of The Old Elm's stem is cemented to preserve it and give it more stability? Source: [3]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Old Elm
Yelps ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ critique me 09:48, 13 May 2025 (UTC).
- I'll review this article. Richard Nevell (talk) 18:50, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: The opening two sentences of the history section is almost identical to what Google Translate produces on this page; they need to be written and a reference provided. I only picked this up because of a spot check.
- Comment: Rephrased the entire paragraph.
The statement about the age of the tree doesn't have a source – this should be relatively easy to fix as the first two references in the article give an age, though they do say 1,000 rather than 1,100.
- Comment: the claim does have a source, it's just later in the article. Also, the tree is 1100 years old. The first two claims just state that it's over 1000 years, and the other sources do say it's 1100 years.
The statement "To stop any possible putrefactive processes or the breeding of microorganisms, the cavities have been filled with reinforcing filler, while openings for natural ventilation have been left" is not supported by the current reference.
- Comment: couldn't find a supporting source and seems to be a misinformation in the Bulgarian wikipedia, which this was partially copied from. So removed it.
The phrasing of the last sentence of the "Conservation" is a bit too close to the source. Richard Nevell (talk) 19:17, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Rephrased.
Pinging @Richard Nevell: everything is done.
- @Yelps:, I'll take another look at the article. Richard Nevell (talk) 22:11, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Feel Her Love
- ... that Tati Gabrielle (pictured) was told to approach a scene of The Last of Us as if she was a doubtful Christian seeing Jesus or the face of God?
- Source: HBO: 50:53
- ALT1: ... that Ellie was described as "baby shark" in one scene of The Last of Us because of the darkness in her eyes? Source: The Hollywood Reporter
- ALT2: ... that a sound effect in an episode of The Last of Us was inspired by a sound from a neighboring room during editing? Source: HBO: 14:08
- ALT3: ... that a whistled language created for a video game was reused in an episode of The Last of Us? Source: HBO: 36:32
- ALT4: ... that Tati Gabrielle (pictured) was told to slow down while filming an action scene for The Last of Us because she was running too fast? Source: Vulture
- ALT5: ... that Tati Gabrielle (pictured) told Bella Ramsey to hit her harder during one scene of The Last of Us? Source: Variety
- ALT6: ... that an episode of The Last of Us was filmed in a former dairy plant which housed some costumes and props used in Shōgun? Source: HBO: 24:32
- ALT7: ... that the creatures' eyes in an episode of The Last of Us were designed to reflect light, like animals at night? Source: HBO: 28:40
- Reviewed: Bust of a Chinese Gentleman
- Comment: Image is an option for ALT0, ALT4, and ALT5.
– Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:59, 12 May 2025 (UTC).
2020 Jonesboro tornado
- ... that the COVID-19 pandemic was attributed to saving lives during a 2020 tornado (video featured)?
- Source: https://www.actionnews5.com/2020/03/29/nws-confirms-ef-tornado-hit-jonesboro-ark-injured/, https://midlandusa.com/blogs/blog/jonesboro-arkansas-tornado-a-warning-success-story?srsltid=AfmBOopyETBXD7pMMlvjv05ATeGWtxFR0BwjRXx2jpQjaGyfJpFFB_Q2, https://www.kait8.com/2022/03/29/jonesboro-locals-look-back-2020-tornado/
- ALT1: ... that Weather Underground described a 2020 tornado (video featured) as "the first U.S. weather disaster of the coronavirus-shutdown era"? Source: https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/picking-up-the-pieces-carefully-after-an-ef3-tornado-in-arkansas
- Reviewed: QPQ coming at my earliest possible convenience tomorrow, I'm quite busy tonight.
- Comment: I strongly prefer the original hook, but I threw the second one out for some variety.
- How about a more easily parsed ALT0: that the COVID-19 pandemic has been credited with saving lives in Arkansas by keeping people indoors during a tornado? DS (talk) 17:20, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- That works. Also, shoot, I need to do that QPQ. EF5 17:38, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Huda al-Daghfaq
- ... that poet Huda al-Daghfaq is also a prose poet? Source: https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Saudi_Arabia_and_the_Gulf_Arab_States_To/5xbOEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Huda+al-Daghfaq&pg=PA266&printsec=frontcover
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marva Nabili
- Comment: Other hook suggestions welcome
Lajmmoore (talk) 19:33, 12 May 2025 (UTC).
Death Race 2
- ... that the 2008 action film Death Race is followed by a prequel entitled Death Race 2?
- ALT1: ... that a judge in DVD Verdict found Death Race 2 guilty of "running on empty"? Source: "The Charge: Running on empty; The Verdict: Guilty. Off to the scrap-yard." - Reviewed by Judge David Johnson (DVD Verdict)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chromebook challenge
- Comment: I withdrew the first nomination for not meeting the five-fold criterion at the time
Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 13:51, 12 May 2025 (UTC).
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[edit]Concours de la meilleure baguette de Paris
- ... that each year since 1994, a jury determines the best baguette in Paris?
- Source: "As the 10 billion baguettes sold each year in France indicates, some cultural clichés stem from reality. The French truly do have bread at every meal; it’s the most fundamental element of sitting down to eat, whether you’re invited to someone’s for dinner, or ordering lunch at a bistro. But it was still remarkable to see, on a recent gray spring afternoon in Paris, a line of boulangers snaking up the stairwell to the second floor of the Chambre Professionnelle des Artisans Boulangers-Pâtissiers, all carrying what they hoped would be awarded this year’s Grand Prix de la Meilleure Baguette de Paris — otherwise known as the official “Best Baguette in Paris” competition. Held annually since 1994, the competition is a badge of honor and warrants serious bragging rights. Moreover, the contest carries real consequences: The winner provides baguettes to the French president for the calendar year, gets a 4,000 Euro prize, and — perhaps most important — sees a lasting bump in business." Grub Street
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Deportation of Soviet Germans (1941–1942)
- Comment: For Bastille Day, 14 July
Thriley (talk) 00:54, 16 May 2025 (UTC).
Ralph Jarvis
- ... that NFL player Ralph Jarvis played high school football at a juvenile detention center?
~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:25, 15 May 2025 (UTC).
List of bigfin squid specimens and sightings
- ... that Nautile recorded two seperate sightings of bigfin squid on the same expedition?
- ALT1: ... that the first bigfin squid specimen collected was damaged by trawling during its discovery? Source: https://iiif.lib.harvard.edu/manifests/view/drs:10794884$3771i
- Reviewed:
-Samoht27 (talk) 17:02, 14 May 2025 (UTC).
Shakuyaku-kanzo-to
- ... that shakuyaku-kanzo-to, a herbal medicine for muscle cramps, only works when its two plant ingredients are combined?
- Source: https://www.med.kobe-u.ac.jp/journal/contents/61/E132.pdf "It also reportedly has high therapeutic effectiveness for muscle cramps in patients undergoing dialysis, patients with diabetes or liver cirrhosis, and patients with dysmenorrhea"; "Shakuyaku-kanzo-to consists of a combination of P. lactiflora and Glycyrrhiza."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WXIN
Cattos💭 01:05, 14 May 2025 (UTC).
Fuuto PI
- ... that Fuuto PI offers more adult themes than the its predecessor Kamen Rider W as a result of its magazine's demography?
- Source: [4]
- ALT1: ... that in Fuuto PI the lead character Shotaro has a more prominent role than fellow character Philip, leading to more explorations of the protagonist's past than in Kamen Rider W? Source: [5]
- ALT2: ... that Fuuto PI was originally gonna be a short manga but it was extended due to positive sales in Japan? Source: [6]
- Reviewed:
Tintor2 (talk) 23:29, 13 May 2025 (UTC).
Symphony in F major (Yamada)
- ... that Kōsaku Yamada's Symphony in F major was the first symphony written by a Japanese composer?
- Source: Katayama, Morihide (2004). "Booklet notes for the Naxos Recording". Naxos Records. pharagraph 5. Retrieved 9 April 2025.
- ALT1: ... that Yamada's Symphony in F major quotes the Kimigayo, both the Japanese national and imperial anthems? Source: Katayama, Morihide (2004). "Booklet notes for the Naxos Recording". Naxos Records. pharagraph 7. Retrieved 9 April 2025.
- ALT2: ... that Yamada's Symphony in F major had to be reconstructed twice after a maritime accident and the bombing of Tokyo during World War II? Source: Ochi, Memmi. "Program Notes for Yamada's Symphony in F Major ("Triumph and Peace")". Philharmonia Northwest. Seattle. Retrieved 9 April 2025.
- ALT3: ... that Yamada's Symphony in F major was published in 2016, over a century after it was composed in 1912? Source: "交響曲ヘ長調《かちどきと平和》" [Symphony in F "Triumph and Peace"]. Craftone Edition (in Japanese). Japan. Retrieved 9 April 2025.
- Reviewed:
NeoGaze (talk) 21:35, 13 May 2025 (UTC).
Phaéton (Saint-Saëns)
- ... that Saint-Saëns's Phaéton was described by a critic after its premiere as "the noise of a hack coming down from Montmartre"?
- Source: Fallon, Daniel (1973). The Symphonies and Symphonic Poems of Camille Saint-Saëns. Ann Arbor, Michigan: Xerox University Microfilms. p. 255.
- ALT1: ... that according to Saint-Saëns, pride is the central idea of his symphonic poem Phaéton? Source: Macdonald, Hugh; Thein, Annette (February 2019). "Not always just the "Danse macabre". The symphonic poems of Camille Saint-Saëns". www.takte-online.de. Translated by Robinson, Elizabeth. Kassel, Germany: [t]akte magazine. Retrieved 9 May 2025.
- ALT2: ... that Saint-Saëns's Phaéton was influenced by Liszt's symphonic poems Mazeppa and Prometheus? Source: Fallon, Daniel (1973). The Symphonies and Symphonic Poems of Camille Saint-Saëns. Ann Arbor, Michigan: Xerox University Microfilms. p. 260.
- Reviewed:
NeoGaze (talk) 20:56, 13 May 2025 (UTC).
Index, Washington
- ... that the small town of Index, Washington, has a Wicca church and Buddhist monestary? Source: Everett Herald, Dharma Realm Buddhist Association
- ALT1: ... that the "town walls" of Index, Washington, have 402 climbing routes? Source: Men's Journal
- Reviewed: Laki Tasi
SounderBruce 18:57, 13 May 2025 (UTC).
- @SounderBruce: The nomination will be closed within 24 hours if no QPQ is provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:28, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Is this 24-hour rule outlined anywhere? I have not seen it being enforced on other nominations this strictly. Frankly it is far too short of a deadline and seems to encourage shoddy and quick reviews rather than proper vetting. SounderBruce 05:49, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's an application of WP:QPQ (emphasis mine):
Your QPQ review should be made before or at the time of your nomination. A nomination which doesn't include a QPQ (and is not from an exempt nominator) may be closed as "incomplete" without warning.
You did not provide a QPQ at the time of the nomination, which makes it liable to be closed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:07, 15 May 2025 (UTC)- The rules need to be revised to reflect the common practice of not having a QPQ on hand at the time of nomination. With the difficulty in finding suitable nominations to review without committing to a potentially time-wasting set of interactions, I do not think it is wise to punish active contributors who would otherwise not make the 7-day nomination window and drop out of the process. SounderBruce 07:13, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- It is a practice that DYK is actively discouraging now, especially with there being large backlogs and a need to encourage not just helping out backlogs but also weeding out unsuitable nominations. It may have been acceptable in the past to have a delay in providing a QPQ, but DYK has moved away from it now. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:15, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- The rules need to be revised to reflect the common practice of not having a QPQ on hand at the time of nomination. With the difficulty in finding suitable nominations to review without committing to a potentially time-wasting set of interactions, I do not think it is wise to punish active contributors who would otherwise not make the 7-day nomination window and drop out of the process. SounderBruce 07:13, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's an application of WP:QPQ (emphasis mine):
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